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Vidal

(642 posts)
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:02 AM Apr 2019

Progressive Group Attacks Biden's Candidacy

"With the Democratic field now crystalizing as a battle between moderate and progressive wings, we’re seeing something we haven’t seen since the 2008 Democratic primary: a real battle for the soul of the Democratic Party.Almost immediately following Vice President Joe Biden’s announcement of his intention to seek the 2020 Democratic nomination, a group calling itself Justice Democrats released a statement assailing Biden as being part of the “old guard” that failed to stop Trump:

The group, which has buoyed high-profile lawmakers like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), slammed Biden as a relic of the Democratic Party’s “old guard” who opposes policies favored by the progressive base.

“The old guard of the Democratic Party failed to stop Trump, and they can’t be counted on to lead the fight against his divide-and-conquer politics today. The party needs new leadership with a bold vision capable of energizing voters in the Democratic base who stayed home in 2016,” the group said in a statement.

“Democrats are increasingly uniting around progressive populist policies like Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, free college, rejecting corporate money, and ending mass incarceration and deportation. We don’t need someone who voted for the Iraq War, for mass incarceration, and for the Bankruptcy Reform Act while voting against gay marriage, reproductive rights, and school desegregation.”

Read More: https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2019/04/battle-lines-drawn-progressive-group-attacks-bidens-candidacy/

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Progressive Group Attacks Biden's Candidacy (Original Post) Vidal Apr 2019 OP
Kicking things off with his Comcast buddy didn't weaken their message any BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #1
And the CEO of Independence Blue Cross. Demit Apr 2019 #14
I'm glad Biden is running BeyondGeography Apr 2019 #24
There is an interesting phenom that we all fall for.. Peacetrain Apr 2019 #2
Really, elleng Apr 2019 #4
Hi elleng!! Peacetrain Apr 2019 #32
Yes we are, often on the same wave length. elleng Apr 2019 #41
Gotta tell ya.. Cha Apr 2019 #3
+1. Never forget - Cenk Uygur gives pussy grabbing advice dalton99a Apr 2019 #6
Idiot. Cha Apr 2019 #8
rule 2 should read- i must have an orgasm, cuz mopinko Apr 2019 #15
This is the man who denied the Armenian genocide and had the gall to name his program.... George II Apr 2019 #19
+1. Betcha few people know the history dalton99a Apr 2019 #26
That group is really not of Democrats BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #5
Cenk Uygur was one of the original founders, along with Saikat Chakrabarti. George II Apr 2019 #9
They are not transparent about where their money comes from NYMinute Apr 2019 #28
Pretty discouraging that a so-called "progressive" organization has to resort to this.... George II Apr 2019 #7
How about the 26% of those called Historic NY Apr 2019 #10
Winning the war against trump is secondary to the various concerns of some. empedocles Apr 2019 #11
Maybe if they made more of a case of why they are the better choice, namahage Apr 2019 #12
So to fight the "divide and conquer" politics Baclava Apr 2019 #13
Old Guard??? LovingA2andMI Apr 2019 #16
No kidding dalton99a Apr 2019 #17
I need to wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2019 #18
Mine have holes in them. Darn! George II Apr 2019 #20
Just argue with them until the holes go away. rzemanfl Apr 2019 #22
Bazinga! George II Apr 2019 #27
I have mismatched socks BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #31
"Justice Democrats" are neither mcar Apr 2019 #21
Right on time... so predictable! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #23
Attacking Biden BlueMTexpat Apr 2019 #25
Ive been concerned Clarity2 Apr 2019 #29
The progressives failed to flip one GOP seat in the midterms. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #30
Here's more, mostly false, trash from Justice Democrats: George II Apr 2019 #33
gee who could have seen that coming ucrdem Apr 2019 #35
Well that's one way to become a millionaire. . . ucrdem Apr 2019 #34
This the last thing we need right now Bayard Apr 2019 #36
"Senator Biden introduced Global Warming legislation today; reporters reached out to Alexandria LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #37
- Celerity Apr 2019 #38
Why don't they stop whining and just try to beat him? BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #39
. . . and just try to beat' trump, instead of helping him so much. empedocles Apr 2019 #40
 

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
1. Kicking things off with his Comcast buddy didn't weaken their message any
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:03 AM
Apr 2019
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Demit

(11,238 posts)
14. And the CEO of Independence Blue Cross.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:32 AM
Apr 2019

That would be Daniel Hilferty, who is also on the board of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the trade association working to defeat the progressive push for Medicare for All. He has exclusively donated to Republicans this year, records show. He gave $5,000 to Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
24. I'm glad Biden is running
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:53 AM
Apr 2019

I like him, but I also think Democrats need to decide if they can ever change this country without fundamentally changing their relationship with corporate money. That conversation was going to happen anyway, but Biden’s presence will put a spotlight on it.

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Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
2. There is an interesting phenom that we all fall for..
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:05 AM
Apr 2019

you get three people shaking their head yes.. and that is the only three people in the world we see.. we do not notice all the others standing around us ..

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elleng

(130,908 posts)
4. Really,
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:15 AM
Apr 2019

and we feed the nay-sayer 'friends,' who serve very nicely to feed repugs and deplorables.

I'll take a break now.

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Peacetrain

(22,876 posts)
32. Hi elleng!!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:44 AM
Apr 2019

You and I are on the same wave length so many times... it just amazes me.. I was telling my husband this morning.. I am turning off the news for a couple of weeks.. I am at peace so to speak now that Biden is in.. and just let things ride for a while.. its that time of year where I have CNN and MSNBC on for half the day I bet.. its crazy

Time to get the garden out anyway

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elleng

(130,908 posts)
41. Yes we are, often on the same wave length.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 01:16 PM
Apr 2019

I listen to classical music radio all day, until 7:00 NewsHour, so am not TOO preoccupied with blather, not in my ears anyway.

Went to laundromat (NOT a frequent stop for me,) and mercifully The View was on the TV, so did get to see and hear Joe. Pleased about that.

Back to music now!

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Cha

(297,237 posts)
3. Gotta tell ya..
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:12 AM
Apr 2019

I don't care what cenk's justice democrats have to say about anything.

They're full of gaslight and buzzwords.. they have no cred.

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dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
6. +1. Never forget - Cenk Uygur gives pussy grabbing advice
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:22 AM
Apr 2019
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/366156-young-turks-founder-apologizes-for-ignorant-past-blog-posts-about-women

The blog posts by Cenk Uygur from the early 2000s were first flagged by TheWrap.com in online archives after they were deleted.

"Obviously the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who don't nearly want to have sex as often as needed for the human race to get along fruitfully and peacefully," Uygur, now 47, wrote at the time.

In another post called "The Rules of Dating," Uygur explains what should happen physically as the dating process progresses.

"Women, ignore these at your peril,” he wrote in 2000. “Rule 1: There must be some serious making out by the third date. If I haven’t felt your tits by then, things are not about to last much longer. In fact, if you don’t get back on track by the fourth date, you’re done.”

"Rule 2: There must be orgasm by the fifth date.”
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mopinko

(70,103 posts)
15. rule 2 should read- i must have an orgasm, cuz
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:41 AM
Apr 2019

you know he aint talkin about hers.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
19. This is the man who denied the Armenian genocide and had the gall to name his program....
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:47 AM
Apr 2019

....after the group that perpetrated the genocide, the Young Turks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks

By the way, with his attitude I wonder if he ever made it to a fifth date?

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dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
26. +1. Betcha few people know the history
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
5. That group is really not of Democrats
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:17 AM
Apr 2019

I don't know who is behind them but their ultimate goal may be to divert votes from the nominee unless it is the one they want. (And Republicans want)

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George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Cenk Uygur was one of the original founders, along with Saikat Chakrabarti.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
28. They are not transparent about where their money comes from
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:26 AM
Apr 2019

and where it goes. Transparency is crucial, especially when it comes to money.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Pretty discouraging that a so-called "progressive" organization has to resort to this....
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:22 AM
Apr 2019

....on the very first day of Biden's candidacy.

An article calling Biden a "relic" should NOT be permitted here, especially since Justice Democrats has been less that forthcoming in its finances and the people behind the organization.

Quite honestly, though, I think many Biden supporters are happy that Justice Democrats are not endorsing Biden - their success rate is under 10%, and about 3% when you consider only new candidates. Last year they endorsed 76 candidates, only 7 won. Of those that won three were already incumbents and one ran unopposed.

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Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
10. How about the 26% of those called
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

Sanders progressives that voted for Trump and by all account will again if a female is the nominee.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
11. Winning the war against trump is secondary to the various concerns of some.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:30 AM
Apr 2019
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namahage

(1,157 posts)
12. Maybe if they made more of a case of why they are the better choice,
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019

and less about setting themselves apart as “purer than thou,” they might manage more than 7 wins out of 78 candidates.

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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
13. So to fight the "divide and conquer" politics
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019

You start your own "divide and conquer" movement! Brilliant, not

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LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
16. Old Guard???
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:42 AM
Apr 2019

Age Discrimination Much? Also, don't they need look at their candidate before speaking?

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rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
18. I need to wash socks. BBL. n/t
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:47 AM
Apr 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Mine have holes in them. Darn!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019
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rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
22. Just argue with them until the holes go away.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019
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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
31. I have mismatched socks
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:42 AM
Apr 2019

The left one has the Biden logo.

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mcar

(42,331 posts)
21. "Justice Democrats" are neither
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019
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Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
23. Right on time... so predictable!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019
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BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
25. Attacking Biden
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

is not at all "progressive," IMO. I, for one, am disgusted that this faddish "progressive" label defines individuals who didn't support the best Dem Presidential candidate in 2016 and thus helped to give us all the WORST Occupant of the WH EVER.

I am very proud to be a LIBERAL and will always be proud to support liberal candidates.

Biden is not my top preference. But the individuals in this group are neither trustworthy nor liberal.

They can take their "progressive" litmus test and stuff it "where the sun don't shine."

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Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
29. Ive been concerned
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:32 AM
Apr 2019

the past couple yrs that some of these groups, and even some large resistance accts on social media, are there to trip us up in 2020. People need to stay awake, as well as put their blinders on and vote for the person who is most likely to win against trump. To be only concerned about purity tests is NOT a strategy to win. We’re up against psychological warfare here. If these groups are legit, they’re living in a fantasyland where this is the average election cycle.

In the mueller report, russia was favoring bernie and trump. Ask yourself why russia also pushed people to the far right and far left. Because that was where bernie and trump were, and Hillary was not.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
30. The progressives failed to flip one GOP seat in the midterms.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:41 AM
Apr 2019

Moderates gave us back the house.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
33. Here's more, mostly false, trash from Justice Democrats:
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:49 AM
Apr 2019
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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
35. gee who could have seen that coming
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:02 AM
Apr 2019
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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
34. Well that's one way to become a millionaire. . .
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 10:59 AM
Apr 2019
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Bayard

(22,073 posts)
36. This the last thing we need right now
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:10 AM
Apr 2019

Divisiveness. The most important thing is getting tRump out of the White House, and a Dem in there.

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
37. "Senator Biden introduced Global Warming legislation today; reporters reached out to Alexandria
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:16 AM
Apr 2019

Ocasio-Cortez for comment, but were unable to reach her, as she won't be born for another three years."

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BannonsLiver

(16,387 posts)
39. Why don't they stop whining and just try to beat him?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

Or is that concept too old guard?

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
40. . . . and just try to beat' trump, instead of helping him so much.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:31 AM
Apr 2019
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