Democratic Primaries
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It looks to me as though the media and other "powers that be" are pushing Joe Biden for our Democratic Presidential candidate.
Not because of any exciting idea he represents but because he's "safe."
He will be 77 in November. We are hoping that any candidate will have eight energetic years in front of him.
But, just in case, I think we should be thinking very hard about who his running mate will be.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dlk
(11,578 posts)A lot can change between now and the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
prismpalette
(38 posts)Totally agree , but Biden should not be running-his age. Elder statesman or adviser is a respected position and his experience could be invaluable for a much more vibrant candidate, I'm old too, nothing to be ashamed of except being Pres is a younger persons job. Trump will leave behind a quagmire and it will suck the vitality out of anyone. Biden does not look well nor does he speak with energy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)C'mon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)Yes, she's entering her 70s and he's closing in on 80.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,772 posts)who the person is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)Even though I was giving a literal answer to the poster's question, a president's health is a legitimate concern.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)and she's had health problems.
DiFi is still going strong.
Today with good health care and keeping your mind sharp by staying in the game, this is not a worry.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,044 posts)Someone might point out that statistics show older women are almost twice as likely as older men to develop Alzheimer's.
Arguments about the health of average individuals can cut a LOT of ways, and they're also pointless since we aren't discussing the population in general, but specific individuals.
Both Biden and Warren are in great shape for their age. The same goes for Sanders. And to some extent the same goes for Trump, though I don't think he's nearly as healthy as his doctors want us to believe, let alone as close to normal weight as he claims.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)Age is a valid concern. You can look at your preferred candidate and decide that you're not worried. But you should give it some thought at least. We have a long campaign season in which to observe the candidates. That's what I'll be doing, anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
elfin
(6,262 posts)It is a lack of geographic balance, which has been a traditional requisite for a choice. Plus, she so far isn't a rainmaker for big donations.
Yes, just two very cynical takes on the process of selection. Reality bites.
That is why Harris would make more sense in addition to balancing Biden with her high energy and prosecutorial qualifications. Often the VP choice becomes the "attack dog" in the general campaign.
The underlying assumption here is that his choice must be a woman or a minority. She is two for two.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Butterflylady
(3,550 posts)Wow I never thought I would see that coming! I don't know about anyone else, but he looks pretty dam good to me. I'm 72 and I can run rings around those a lot younger than me. I have a good friend who is 79 and she can make me look lazy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,772 posts)and a lot of people are happy about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,044 posts)I know people in their 20s who are in a lot worse shape than Joe Biden, who's always been fit, brilliant, and very engaged in and committed to our society and political system.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)Mayor Pete. Not Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,635 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)And Mayor Pete's surge has stalled. In a week or so, the Biden bump will stall, then Pete and others will have a chance to grab the spotlight. O'Rourke seems like he is retooling his campaign to generate his own surge. Warren seems to be just chugging along.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)I wouldnt bet the house on national polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Meanwhile, Biden jumped and Sanders fell, as Biden stories dominated over Buttigieg stories. Maybe it's more of a pause than a stall, but not unexpected, since he lost the spotlight, at least temporarily. Presumably he will try to grab the spotlight back in the next few weeks. Maybe the transparent plot against him will help him.
I would look at South Carolina polls in the next few weeks. He's going there soon, and has to do well there to have any credibility.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)I hope he eats his veggies and gets his exercise. He looks good, though, for his age.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,772 posts)the US M$M has an ugly habit of tearing the Democratic frontrunner down.. if nothing else to make sure of a "horserace".
They manipulate and manufacture whatever scenario helps their bottom line. They're not reporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BluesRunTheGame
(1,621 posts)Probably Klobuchar.
Since the mid/late 80s all of our VP picks have been centrist/DLC types. Even a couple of them to the right of that. The money people dont like lefties.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BluesRunTheGame
(1,621 posts)Ill be really surprised if that happens though.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)He needs an enthusiastic black vote. Harris or Abrams I would think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BluesRunTheGame
(1,621 posts)Joe is old. His VP pick stands a pretty good chance of moving up. The powers that be carry a lot more weight than any particular voter block. There will be a lot of pressure on him to make a choice that protects their interests. Also, Joe himself, despite his working class persona has a long history of working toward the benefit of the wealthy/powerful. I dont foresee him choosing anyone to his left.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)She can reassure them in a smoke-filled room.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)I just don't think it will be Biden or Sanders. I don't think it will be Pete either.
I could be wrong.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
doompatrol39
(428 posts)I mean if he doesn't win it will just be blamed on petulant liberals and young people anyway so what's the harm? Pragmatic, safe centrism can never actual fail on it's own merits it can only be failed by dirty, whiny leftists not clapping loudly enough.
Besides, I'm sure those throngs of rust belt centrist voters who I'm told are super excited by Joe (because.....reasons?) are going to be out there stuffing envelopes, getting out the vote, canvassing, making phone calls and everything else.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)that poll posted here showing how close it is - Texas may be possible to get.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)unfortunately. Who can win the swing states is the question.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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nolabear
(41,991 posts)First, yes, hes 76. But hes an honest man and I believe hell actually let us know how his health is. Hes sharp as a tack and I suspect at 76 hes more put together than George Bush was on his best presidential day and that monster in the WH in his entire pathetic life. And a healthy 76 comes with associations, experience, a sense of history and possibly a sense of urgency to do things right.
He can use all those things to replace the cutthroats now in key positions of power with smart, forward thinking, effective leaders that can undo a lot of harm with their own networks and vision. He will certainly pick a VP that will share his hopeful and intelligent vision. We dont ever only get an individual when we elect a president. In this case well get many things that can heal us and get us on a path toward success.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,855 posts)Ummm.... Because hes the public favorite?
Because hes the most qualified nationally and globally?
I think candidates at 6% or less are the ones being pushed on me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,533 posts)If anyone has a right to complain about media coverage it ain't the males in the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)they've given him, they're loathe to report the positive developments like his 24 hr. haul and the super impressive poll numbers out today. They don't have a choice. They can't continue to bleat out every day... 'has his time passed? Is he out of step with the younger, more progressive base?'
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bradshaw3
(7,533 posts)Not me. I don't think the media gets together and chooses a candidate; just think sometimes they are not very good at their jobs, or are looking for horserace, ratings, drama, the new thing.
You're right, the easy thing to do with Biden is a trope about being out of touch, whether it's warranted or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AirmensMom
(14,648 posts)or Mayor Pete, I like the idea of Kamala as VP. If it's Kamala or Warren, I like Mayor Pete for VP. But really, we'd be in trouble if we had 2 old white men on the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)I have no confidence that Biden will pick a woman, or anyone else who isn't a white man.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demit
(11,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Merlot
(9,696 posts)"Hopefully he'll ask first" is ironic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demit
(11,238 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
I don't see that. He served as VP for a black man!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Who he served as VP for has nothing to do with the choice he would make.
I think he goes for a Bullock, Inslee, or Hickenlopper - nice, safe choices.
Castro was supposed to be one of Hillary's top picks for VP, instead we got the "safe" choice. Ican see Biden doing the same thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Doreen
(11,686 posts)but I must admit that is one of the reasons I want either Biden/Harris or Biden/Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,276 posts)he was polling high.
announcements always bring attention so he is getting a bump from that.
Pete was getting attention but even that was becsuse he was making himself available to media.
Sanders did the sneer but his appearances just didn't go well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,493 posts)There's no basis for that assertion. Biden has been leading in polls since well before he announced so it would seem that, so far, Democrats are the ones who prefer him.
The "media is picking out candidate" meme doesn't really work when the candidate they are "picking" happens to be the one with a significant lead in about 95% of the polls thus far. You should probably retire that one for a while.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Does anyone have another name of a female who is not a current candidate ?
Preferably,young,minority,and not a Senator.
Any suggestions?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,846 posts)...pack a whale of a wallop on Trump, and already has. Think about that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Desert grandma
(804 posts)I think he may very well end up being the eventual nominee. People like me support him, not because he is "safe", but because we think he has the experience and the stature needed to repair all of the harm that the Orange Buffoon has done to the country. If he does not pick a female as VP, I think he might go for someone like Julian Castro who would energize Hispanics and perhaps help deliver Texas. In the end, the nominee will choose someone he/she can work well with. We had the A team with Obama/Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brooklynite
(94,757 posts)Thatll be the choice of the nominee, whether you like the choic or not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)Vice President by acclamation - if the Presidential nominee chose a very controversial choice for VP - for example, someone who opposed abortion rights - he'd probably be told by the power players in the party to choose someone else or run a real risk that the delegates would refuse to suspend the rules and reject his choice in a roll call vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)His Mom lived to be over 100 and had all her faculties
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden