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Rhiannon12866

(233,605 posts)
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 10:35 PM Nov 2023

'Damning': New Pence notes point to GOP senator's role in Jan. 6 plot - All In - MSNBC



“For nearly three years, we've had no concrete evidence supporting that damning possibility. But now we do—from Mike Pence himself,” says Chris Hayes on new reporting on GOP Sen. Chuck Grassley’s potential role in the Jan. 6 plot. - Aired on 11/28/2023.
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'Damning': New Pence notes point to GOP senator's role in Jan. 6 plot - All In - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Nov 2023 OP
Grassley was going to rule for TFG LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #1
We have had evidence from gab13by13 Nov 2023 #2
His son, a Marine, had to remind him of his Constitutional duties. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #3
Yikes! Good reminder! I'd forgotten that his son was in the military! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2023 #5
If Pence has a son, that means that he would have had to... JoseBalow Nov 2023 #7
Immaculate conception,.... magicarpet Nov 2023 #9
clearly his son is of "immaculate conception". Mike would never be so naughty. MagaSmash Nov 2023 #11
Spineless Pence BOSSHOG Nov 2023 #4
His son, a Marine... sheshe2 Nov 2023 #6
It was a coup attempt. czarjak Nov 2023 #8
Terrifying musclecar6 Nov 2023 #10
Grassley used to be one of the more reasonable Republicans. cab67 Nov 2023 #12

gab13by13

(27,973 posts)
2. We have had evidence from
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 10:44 PM
Nov 2023

Grassley’s own words, from texts from Cheseboro, and others.

If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.
We knew years ago the plan was for Pence to not ratify votes from several states. If Pence got cold feet he would take a powder and Grassley would do the dirty deed.
What is new that we learned was that Pence’s son talked him into doing the right thing.

sheshe2

(91,829 posts)
3. His son, a Marine, had to remind him of his Constitutional duties.
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:01 PM
Nov 2023
Former Vice President Mike Pence briefly considered not presiding over the ceremony that formalized his coup-attempting boss’s 2020 election loss, once again raising questions about the contemporaneous scheming about Iowa’s Chuck Grassley presiding in his stead.

In his daily planner, in which he also took journal-like notes, Pence on Christmas Eve in 2020 wrote it might be better to abdicate his constitutionally proscribed role overseeing the Electoral College tally to avoid bruising then-President Donald Trump’s ego.

“Not feeling like I should attend electoral count,” he wrote, according to a report Tuesday by ABC News. “Too many questions, too many doubts, too hurtful to my friend. Therefore I’m not going to participate in certification of election.”

But Pence soon abandoned that notion and returned to his previous plan to preside over the Jan. 6, 2021, ceremony, citing a conversation with his son, an active-duty Marine, who reminded him that both had taken an oath to protect and uphold the U.S. Constitution.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/pence-briefly-considered-not-presiding-221923886.html

JoseBalow

(7,382 posts)
7. If Pence has a son, that means that he would have had to...
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 01:09 AM
Nov 2023

Nah, the kid must be adopted

magicarpet

(18,148 posts)
9. Immaculate conception,....
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 12:15 PM
Nov 2023

Sperm squirted down from the heavens. It was God's Will that "Mother" bore children,... but Mike Pence was little more than a spectator rather than an active donor.

BOSSHOG

(42,263 posts)
4. Spineless Pence
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:08 PM
Nov 2023

Too cowardly to do the wrong thing. Too cowardly to do the right thing. Until his son had a chat with him. Everything trump touches dies Mike. He has touched your career and your integrity. Both Dead. But you dumbasses keep getting off the canvas.

sheshe2

(91,829 posts)
6. His son, a Marine...
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 11:47 PM
Nov 2023

His son had to explain his Constitutional duties to him. The duty he swore to uphold. Unbelievable.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
10. Terrifying
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 02:10 PM
Nov 2023


How close we came. Obviously Pence is a huge weakling, but there are plenty more like Grassley running around in the Republican party. The voters should be so on fire that they vote out every single republican running in the next election, to send a message that a new party should be started to replace the insane MAGA crazies. Course they are not smart enough to figure that out and the Orange Clown is their front runner. Morons.

cab67

(3,342 posts)
12. Grassley used to be one of the more reasonable Republicans.
Wed Nov 29, 2023, 04:36 PM
Nov 2023

I sometimes wonder if he's been replaced by some other sort of primate.

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