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Related: About this forum'Damning': New Pence notes point to GOP senator's role in Jan. 6 plot - All In - MSNBC
For nearly three years, we've had no concrete evidence supporting that damning possibility. But now we dofrom Mike Pence himself, says Chris Hayes on new reporting on GOP Sen. Chuck Grassleys potential role in the Jan. 6 plot. - Aired on 11/28/2023.

LetMyPeopleVote
(162,736 posts)gab13by13
(27,973 posts)Grassleys own words, from texts from Cheseboro, and others.
If it looks like duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck.
We knew years ago the plan was for Pence to not ratify votes from several states. If Pence got cold feet he would take a powder and Grassley would do the dirty deed.
What is new that we learned was that Pences son talked him into doing the right thing.
sheshe2
(91,829 posts)In his daily planner, in which he also took journal-like notes, Pence on Christmas Eve in 2020 wrote it might be better to abdicate his constitutionally proscribed role overseeing the Electoral College tally to avoid bruising then-President Donald Trumps ego.
Not feeling like I should attend electoral count, he wrote, according to a report Tuesday by ABC News. Too many questions, too many doubts, too hurtful to my friend. Therefore Im not going to participate in certification of election.
But Pence soon abandoned that notion and returned to his previous plan to preside over the Jan. 6, 2021, ceremony, citing a conversation with his son, an active-duty Marine, who reminded him that both had taken an oath to protect and uphold the U.S. Constitution.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/pence-briefly-considered-not-presiding-221923886.html
Rhiannon12866
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JoseBalow
(7,382 posts)Nah, the kid must be adopted
magicarpet
(18,148 posts)Sperm squirted down from the heavens. It was God's Will that "Mother" bore children,... but Mike Pence was little more than a spectator rather than an active donor.
MagaSmash
(9,435 posts)BOSSHOG
(42,263 posts)Too cowardly to do the wrong thing. Too cowardly to do the right thing. Until his son had a chat with him. Everything trump touches dies Mike. He has touched your career and your integrity. Both Dead. But you dumbasses keep getting off the canvas.
sheshe2
(91,829 posts)His son had to explain his Constitutional duties to him. The duty he swore to uphold. Unbelievable.
czarjak
(12,796 posts)Period.
musclecar6
(1,884 posts)How close we came. Obviously Pence is a huge weakling, but there are plenty more like Grassley running around in the Republican party. The voters should be so on fire that they vote out every single republican running in the next election, to send a message that a new party should be started to replace the insane MAGA crazies. Course they are not smart enough to figure that out and the Orange Clown is their front runner. Morons.
cab67
(3,342 posts)I sometimes wonder if he's been replaced by some other sort of primate.