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Al Franken - David Frum on Trump's Venezuela Venture
We had a chaotic start to the new year with Donald Trump invading Venezuela and kidnapping dictator Nicolás Maduro. We’re joined by The Atlantic's David Frum to help us make sense of and give us important context on the situation. Trump says that America is running the country and might be there for years to come. It sounds more like old-fashioned imperialism than a democratic transition.
Trump has openly admitted that this is about oil. He says he's taking Venezuelan oil and putting it into a special account controlled only by the president. Isn't it the job of Congress to appropriate how money is spent in this country?
We also discuss the administration's plans for Greenland. Are we actually prepared to seize it from our NATO ally, Denmark? Trump says yes. How crazy is that?!
Al also shares his thoughts on the horrific situation in his home state of Minnesota as ICE’s reckless aggression led to the murder of Renee Good. - 01/11/2026.
READ David Frum in The Atlantic: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/david-frum/
LISTEN to The David Frum Show: https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/the-david-frum-show/