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October 19, 2017
Well, they called it themselves
JPR Losers revert to form using a gender biased term complaining about Sanders loss of speaking spot
https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/imo-now-that-hillary-and-her-harpies-have-successfully-removed/"IMO – now that Hillary and her harpies have successfully removed..."
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"18. If this is what feminism is about, please call me a male chauvinist pig:
I’d rather be called their enemy."
Well, they called it themselves
October 14, 2017
Fredrick Douglass
https://www.thoughtco.com/frederick-douglass-quotes-on-womens-rights-3530068
Frederick Douglass was one of the few men present at the pioneer woman’s rights convention held at Seneca Falls, New York, in July 1848.
"When the true history of the antislavery cause shall be written, women will occupy a large space in its pages, for the cause of the slave has been peculiarly woman's cause." [Life and Times of Frederick Douglass,1881]
"Observing woman's agency, devotion and efficiency in pleading the cause of the slave, gratitude for this high service early moved me to give favorable attention to the subject of what is called "woman's rights" and caused me to be denominated a woman's rights man. I am glad to say I have never been ashamed to be thus designated." [Life and Times of Frederick Douglass,1881]
"[A] woman should have every honorable motive to exertion which is enjoyed by man, to the full extent of her capacities and endowments.
The case is too plain for argument. Nature has given woman the same powers, and subjected her to the same earth, breathes the same air, subsists on the same food, physical, moral, mental and spiritual. She has, therefore, an equal right with man, in all efforts to obtain and maintain a perfect existence."
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Douglass' last speech was to the National Council of Women in 1895; he died of a heart attack suffered the evening of the speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Douglass#Women.27s_rights
In 1848, Douglass was the only African American to attend the Seneca Falls Convention, the first women's rights convention, in upstate New York. Elizabeth Cady Stanton asked the assembly to pass a resolution asking for women's suffrage. Many of those present opposed the idea, including influential Quakers James and Lucretia Mott. Douglass stood and spoke eloquently in favor; he said that he could not accept the right to vote as a black man if women could not also claim that right. He suggested that the world would be a better place if women were involved in the political sphere.
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All of the quotes I pasted above seem normal and average now. They were earthshatteringly shocking at the time.
Here is an example of a guy who should be invited to speak at a women's conference
Fredrick Douglass
https://www.thoughtco.com/frederick-douglass-quotes-on-womens-rights-3530068
Frederick Douglass was one of the few men present at the pioneer woman’s rights convention held at Seneca Falls, New York, in July 1848.
"When the true history of the antislavery cause shall be written, women will occupy a large space in its pages, for the cause of the slave has been peculiarly woman's cause." [Life and Times of Frederick Douglass,1881]
"Observing woman's agency, devotion and efficiency in pleading the cause of the slave, gratitude for this high service early moved me to give favorable attention to the subject of what is called "woman's rights" and caused me to be denominated a woman's rights man. I am glad to say I have never been ashamed to be thus designated." [Life and Times of Frederick Douglass,1881]
"[A] woman should have every honorable motive to exertion which is enjoyed by man, to the full extent of her capacities and endowments.
The case is too plain for argument. Nature has given woman the same powers, and subjected her to the same earth, breathes the same air, subsists on the same food, physical, moral, mental and spiritual. She has, therefore, an equal right with man, in all efforts to obtain and maintain a perfect existence."
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Douglass' last speech was to the National Council of Women in 1895; he died of a heart attack suffered the evening of the speech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Douglass#Women.27s_rights
In 1848, Douglass was the only African American to attend the Seneca Falls Convention, the first women's rights convention, in upstate New York. Elizabeth Cady Stanton asked the assembly to pass a resolution asking for women's suffrage. Many of those present opposed the idea, including influential Quakers James and Lucretia Mott. Douglass stood and spoke eloquently in favor; he said that he could not accept the right to vote as a black man if women could not also claim that right. He suggested that the world would be a better place if women were involved in the political sphere.
In this denial of the right to participate in government, not merely the degradation of woman and the perpetuation of a great injustice happens, but the maiming and repudiation of one-half of the moral and intellectual power of the government of the world.
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All of the quotes I pasted above seem normal and average now. They were earthshatteringly shocking at the time.
October 14, 2017
Bernie speaking on 1st day at Women's conference is a horrible idea & it's easy to show why...
- A non hearing impaired person who hasn't been a particular advocate for the hearing impaired signed to speak on the first day of a conference for the deaf when it is the first conference for the deaf have had in 40 years.
- A non Latino/Hispanic person who hasn't been a particular advocate for the Latino/Hispanic community signed to speak on the first day of a conference for Latinos/Hispanic people when it is the first conference for Latinos in 40 years.
- A white man who hasn't done much for African American rights signed to speak on the the first day of a conference for African Americans when it is the first conference for African Americans in 40 years.
We can keep going. All of the above would be shockingly bad choices. It's all pretty obvious. Women's rights has not been one of Bernie's signature issues. He's probably on the right side of those rights, but that's not his bailiwick.
The decision to have Bernie speak was not about women. That's the problem. This conference is about women.
October 7, 2017
Not only do they, in their paranoia, interpret everything that happens as somehow a conspiracy to hurt Sanders chances in 2020, they indicate that Sanders is the only chance to beat Trump in 2020 and they continue to infer that Sanders was cheated in 2016 despite Sanders losing that primary by 4 million votes and by a bigger delegate margin than Hillary lost in 2008. Not to mention that it is highly unlikely that Sanders will run. He (and Hillary unfortunately) will both be too old. They were both pushing it in 2016.
JPR Nutjobs interpret CA moving up their primary as an attack on Sanders chances in 2020
https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/democrats-are-already-trying-to-rig-the-2020-primaries-against-bernie/"Bernie Sanders may very well run for president again in 2020, and knowing that he now has the same level of name recognition Hillary Clinton had in 2016, Democrats are terrified at the prospect of him winning. As a result, they’re already trying to rewrite rules in an effort to give their preferred candidate—Kamala Harris—an advantage. Governor Jerry Brown of California recently signed a bill moving up the state’s primary by three months, which might give Harris the edge since she’s from that state—and more importantly—an early advantage in the overall race. If this is a sign of what’s to come from Democrats, then 2020 might turn out to be a repeat of 2016, and we all know what that means… four more years of Donald J.Trump."
Not only do they, in their paranoia, interpret everything that happens as somehow a conspiracy to hurt Sanders chances in 2020, they indicate that Sanders is the only chance to beat Trump in 2020 and they continue to infer that Sanders was cheated in 2016 despite Sanders losing that primary by 4 million votes and by a bigger delegate margin than Hillary lost in 2008. Not to mention that it is highly unlikely that Sanders will run. He (and Hillary unfortunately) will both be too old. They were both pushing it in 2016.
October 2, 2017
Re: Bravenak, look how upset some folks get when a strong black woman has an opinion
Very telling.
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