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RKP5637

(67,111 posts) Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:24 PM Dec 2017

DU POLL: Will Balkanization eventually happen in the US? [View all]

I used to think never, but with this tax bill, and the ever widening chasm in the US between political parties, I now think it is possible.

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	Yes
	9 (50%)
	Maybe
	4 (22%)
	No
	5 (28%)
	2018 and 2020 will negate this.
	0 (0%)
	Some form of it, but not radical.
	0 (0%)
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DU POLL: Will Balkanization eventually happen in the US? [View all] RKP5637 Dec 2017 OP

What exactly are you asking? brooklynite Dec 2017 #1

Will the country divide into regional areas wanting separation from a federal government, so as to RKP5637 Dec 2017 #4

No brooklynite Dec 2017 #5

Probably in the big picture you are 100% correct. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #6

We have a pretty strong precedent in this country for a "perpetual union." Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #2

No. A lot of poor red states need federal monies that come from blue states. Lanius Dec 2017 #3

If the federal government stops being effective, the states will have to step up. haele Dec 2017 #7

This is where I see things going Blue_Adept Dec 2017 #10

Yes, I could definitely see something like this happening "if" the current trend continues. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #12

We certainly hate each other as much as we did in the 1850s... First Speaker Dec 2017 #8

If Trump gets his pick of a couple of more SCOTUS justices, that will pour gas on the fire. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #13

No get the red out Dec 2017 #9

I see no real evidence pointing towards it, and as the various states and territories are not LanternWaste Dec 2017 #11

I certainly hope not, because it would tragically weaken the US IMO to be divided. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #14

I don't know about Balkanization Saboburns Dec 2017 #15

And that is the saddest part, driven by hatred, while Rupert Murdoch profits!!! Hate sells. Trump RKP5637 Dec 2017 #16

If Dems don't get control of Congress in 2018 election ... GeorgeGist Dec 2017 #17

Yeah, the 2018 election will be very telling about the future of the US. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #19

I must agree.. pangaia Dec 2017 #30

Why do you think that? ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #34

Very probably. Welcome to the Balkanized States of America: Aristus Dec 2017 #18

Probably all the southern states as one region, unless global warming wipes the area out. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #20

I agree. Aristus Dec 2017 #21

Yep! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #22

What are the southern states in your scenario? ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #36

It's really difficult to tell until events roll out, if they ever do, if such a geographical area RKP5637 Dec 2017 #48

Pacifica: California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii. VOX Dec 2017 #25

Sorry. Washington, Oregon, parts of northern California, and maybe even B.C. will be 'Cascadia'. Aristus Dec 2017 #26

Understood (cool flag!)... VOX Dec 2017 #37

Are Washington, Oregon and N. California going to invade ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #39

I don't know in what reality that's possible. Aristus Dec 2017 #40

Sure ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #42

Okay. Aristus Dec 2017 #44

Ok, thanks for responding ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #45

large parts of California, Oregon and Washington are red. Kaleva Dec 2017 #47

In my vision for Cascadia, it's Washington and Oregon west of the Cascades Aristus Dec 2017 #54

Redneckastan, the Great Lakes Strip: Milwaukee-Chicago-Detroit-Cleveland Chasstev365 Dec 2017 #27

I have to admit I wonder what will happen to all of the right-wing "Gawd Bless 'Murikkka!" Aristus Dec 2017 #28

Start shooting their neighbors? ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #46

The U.S. is now polarized on REALITY. There's no solution for that except divorce. VOX Dec 2017 #23

Yep, I've often said watching politics in the US is like a perpetual domestic quarrel. The 2018/2020 RKP5637 Dec 2017 #24

Same. I no longer have faith in people to do the right thing. VOX Dec 2017 #31

That's an astute and sad observation. Not many solutions and not much time to implement them. LonePirate Dec 2017 #29

Agreed. Something will have to give way. VOX Dec 2017 #32

The notion that ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #38

We "folks on a progressive website" tend to think outside the box. VOX Dec 2017 #41

When did proposing treason and civil war ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #43

"Treason" is the reason we're in this mess. We are a Russian satellite state...for now. VOX Dec 2017 #52

As most of us live in Purple America, it'd be impossible to Balkanize this nation. Kaleva Dec 2017 #33

Yep, please see #49. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2017 #50

An in-depth look at the Balkans themselves might inspire the same question. Aristus Dec 2017 #55

When the term was first coined back in early 19th century, what you describe was extremely rare. Kaleva Dec 2017 #56

How do you balkanize urban vs. rural? So no. nt Persondem Dec 2017 #35

Yep, the map in #33 shows where we are. Actually, that is a good thing perhaps, maybe there is still RKP5637 Dec 2017 #49

Agree 100% nt Persondem Dec 2017 #51

By ethnic and political cleansing. roamer65 Dec 2017 #53