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NanceGreggs

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8. Hard to argue ...

Tue Jan 2, 2018, 10:13 PM

Jan 2018

... with such a precise response, full of factual underpinnings and a thoughtful assessment of the political implications involved.

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Those of you who think calling for Franken's resignation ... [View all] NanceGreggs Jan 2018 OP

Oh for fuckedy fucks sake. Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #1

What a nice, thoughtful response to one of the most eloquent and respected members of DU. Glorfindel Jan 2018 #7

Well I was just returning an eye roll that was given to me. Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #11

If you think that insulting DUers in a fit of pique is okay, you haven't read the Civility TOS much Hekate Jan 2018 #102

And what exactly is insulting about fuckedy fuck ? I mean you all need to lighten up and/or Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #118

The transporter machines finally worked. Beam you up ... . betsuni Jan 2018 #166

Stop the presses! NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #123

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jan 2018 #52

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+1 disndat Jan 2018 #184

Hard to argue ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #8

Thank you...I thought that I summed it up quite eloquently myself. Glad you Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #14

Obviously ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #34

And obviously NEITHER DO YOU! Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #38

Pretty Funny stuff, Captain! OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2018 #64

I actually came up with it earlier tonight on twitter...so it's new. But I kinda just meant... Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #68

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If you don't want to discuss it, go away!! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #103

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I've tried to explain the sarcasm thing to this rainin Jan 2018 #181

Way to articulate your point. Duppers Jan 2018 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2018 #108

Gillibrand must resign kiri Jan 2018 #70

And on what grounds should she resign? Oh because you said so???? n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #71

How about if six breitbart workers swore Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #81

What "reasoning" are you talking about...I haven't said shit. I asked what grounds should she Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #90

You're not getting it MrPurple Jan 2018 #99

Oh. The poster got it. Just refuses to engage with issue. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #193

Thank you. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #101

Gillibrand is the only one taking heat for this stupid move. She had a lot of company. Hekate Jan 2018 #107

Wrong. She says what needs to be said. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #113

You are certainly right that she had company. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #114

Nobody is forgetting about her "company," believe me. MoonRiver Jan 2018 #183

No need for that. Im all for her staying in the Senate... JHB Jan 2018 #162

Ohhhh boy... FarPoint Jan 2018 #161

Soup! Soup! Soup! Yay! K&R rzemanfl Jan 2018 #2

I don't think we gained a damn thing all we did is doc03 Jan 2018 #3

... Lucinda Jan 2018 #4

My dear NanceGreggs, as always - always! - you get right to the heart of the matter Glorfindel Jan 2018 #5

Agree with you 100%. Asked DNC to explain it, but got no response. I will still sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #6

Ask Gillibrand zentrum Jan 2018 #22

Ideological purity... Tie Gillibrand and Bachmann together keithbvadu2 Jan 2018 #30

And every other one that stood by G's side. None had the backbone to oppose this. Wwcd Jan 2018 #86

Yep Alice11111 Jan 2018 #105

15 Dem Senators did not join the mob WyLoochka Jan 2018 #158

You said it! True Blue American Jan 2018 #160

I did. Very terse reply. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #155

If The Democrats Lose That Seat This Year.... SoCalMusicLover Jan 2018 #202

I called the DNC several times too. Just like Wisconsin, ignored. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #112

The Franken situation has mostly served to put another rift through the Democratic party. PufPuf23 Jan 2018 #9

At least I can eat some popcorn wellst0nev0ter Jan 2018 #10

The Dems threw Sen Franken under the bus for nothing... TheDebbieDee Jan 2018 #12

The Dems & the Independent. ALL stood together hand in hand. Wwcd Jan 2018 #87

Let's all commit party suicide. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #117

Exactly...dumping our best Sen, rather than fighting the tax fuck bill Alice11111 Jan 2018 #106

Very well stated. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #110

+1 disndat Jan 2018 #204

TOTALLY on point! nt Raine Jan 2018 #13

Thank you! I'm glad you posted this. bitterross Jan 2018 #15

Well, now we have what used to be a safe seat in play. Democrats gave the GOP a gift lunamagica Jan 2018 #16

Truth. Played like a violin. Even the Repubs were shocked Alice11111 Jan 2018 #120

Yep. The simple dirty trick succeeded beyond their wildest dreams dalton99a Jan 2018 #130

The Repubs don't even have to finish us, just sit back and watch Alice11111 Jan 2018 #150

He can run for President. nt Xipe Totec Jan 2018 #17

I'd vote for him long before I would vote for Joe or Hillary or Howard or Bernie...just sayin' pecosbob Jan 2018 #19

There is NO ONE who could compete against Al Franken. Wwcd Jan 2018 #89

I think the Dems neutered him for 2020. What motive?? Alice11111 Jan 2018 #121

Yes. I'm fking pissed. Wwcd Jan 2018 #136

He would have been, and he would have been one of the best, Alice11111 Jan 2018 #149

Patience Nederland Jan 2018 #18

Oh, the "someday you'll understand ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #37

Indeed! For some Democrats I have no patience. dchill Jan 2018 #61

!!! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #122

Begging the question Nederland Jan 2018 #94

If by "standing by our core princples" you mean COLGATE4 Jan 2018 #111

Of course! NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #124

Franken was not found guilty of anything Nederland Jan 2018 #172

Something something keep our powder dry... JHB Jan 2018 #163

And with Bachmann or another idiot Republican taking the seat in a year... krispos42 Jan 2018 #39

What makes you so certain... Nederland Jan 2018 #69

Yeah. Just like Hillary Clinton was sure to win. kcr Jan 2018 #127

I never said she was sure to win Nederland Jan 2018 #174

Oh please. tymorial Jan 2018 #187

Amen, sister! cp Jan 2018 #20

I think it was a terribly miscalculated move to further their careers... and for a few of them lunamagica Jan 2018 #21

THAAAANK YOUUUUUUU... pangaia Jan 2018 #23

Why did he resign? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #24

Is that meant to be a serious question? n/t NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #48

More specifically, I'm wondering why he felt the need to resign. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2018 #58

Well, gee ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #67

Well, let me explain my two-sided view bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #25

Can you please explain ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #59

Any payoff from this fiasco bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #66

So Franken ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #73

It's a very similar wedge issue to 2016 bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #178

This was initiated by Nixonian dirty trickster Roger Stone 90-percent Jan 2018 #26

What it accomplished was to show how easily any Democrat can be ratfucked right out of office mn9driver Jan 2018 #28

Notice all the dubious allegations against him ended when he announced his resignation. Efilroft Sul Jan 2018 #36

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. n/t susanna Jan 2018 #145

Somewhere are Republicans exclaiming: "That was easy!" Beartracks Jan 2018 #180

This 1000000+ catrose Jan 2018 #29

Thank you, dear lady! Duppers Jan 2018 #31

I suspect it is even worse. Pobeka Jan 2018 #32

I just read through years of Frankens tweets riverwalker Jan 2018 #33

They have also helped defame him dalton99a Jan 2018 #46

I'm trying to understand why Progressive dog Jan 2018 #35

So ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #45

It was not a "demand" Progressive dog Jan 2018 #198

Because I don't think Dems did the right thing Ghost Owl Jan 2018 #62

Well said, particularly your last paragraph, which is spot on, IMO. ms liberty Jan 2018 #168

The Senators who asked Franken to resign Progressive dog Jan 2018 #196

It's not consistency Ghost Owl Jan 2018 #199

It is consistency Progressive dog Jan 2018 #200

This is all wrong. Not right. dchill Jan 2018 #63

When Franken resigned, he took due Progressive dog Jan 2018 #195

What makes you think that this was the right thing? pazzyanne Jan 2018 #167

Al Franken took your vote away, Progressive dog Jan 2018 #194

Sorry but there are pazzyanne Jan 2018 #205

My way seeing things is Progressive dog Jan 2018 #206

Oh Nance so silly Egnever Jan 2018 #41

At last I hope many of you will join me in cutting off any and all donations to the Senate maddiemom Jan 2018 #92

May I suggest that those with the ability to donate spooky3 Jan 2018 #100

What a coincidence riverwalker Jan 2018 #42

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #49

Republicans aren't taking about Al Frankin as a response to Moore and Trump. aikoaiko Jan 2018 #43

And the whole thing would have gone away by now if we would all STFU about it. meadowlander Jan 2018 #55

I cant speak for anyone else, but I think people feel as if there has spooky3 Jan 2018 #104

"It sucks that he had to take a fall." NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #126

At least we found out that Gillibrand is unfit for any serious future consideration. n/t MrModerate Jan 2018 #44

Yes we did. blue cat Jan 2018 #56

I hope so connecticut yankee Jan 2018 #74

So wait? The accusations against Franken aren't enough in your mind, unless Republicans mythology Jan 2018 #47

No accusations are not enough Egnever Jan 2018 #53

Thank you from pazzyanne Jan 2018 #169

So let's just accuse everybody since there's no need for evidence. Sorry, but I sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #75

So if eight of your coworkers accuse you of something ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #84

One temp coworker & six strangers you met briefly, four of whom accuse you anonymously. Demit Jan 2018 #157

Guilty of WHAT? riverwalker Jan 2018 #88

+1 dalton99a Jan 2018 #134

Kind of Pretzel Logic There ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #175

I am mad as hell at Gillibrand, Harris and Warren question everything Jan 2018 #50

Convicted in the Senate ladies room Mopar151 Jan 2018 #156

This is depressing because its our own party mountain grammy Jan 2018 #51

Thank you, Nance. My boundless gratitude to you for bringing your eloquence to bear on this issue. scarletwoman Jan 2018 #54

Thank you for having the huevos to put this out there. fierywoman Jan 2018 #57

Act in haste, repent at leisure. betsuni Jan 2018 #60

Shame seta1950 Jan 2018 #65

We are weaker and our party is diminished... NurseJackie Jan 2018 #72

it really doesn't matter elmac Jan 2018 #76

When tone-deaf Democrats go to war.... mudstump Jan 2018 #77

Democrats love to kick their base in the teeth... mudstump Jan 2018 #78

This is very well stated customerserviceguy Jan 2018 #80

Once again we turn the victory of having a warrior like Franken on our side, into a defeat. Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #82

You are aware that when any potential Democratic Presidential candidate applegrove Jan 2018 #83

Dems lost on this one. Snackshack Jan 2018 #85

I don't even care what they fucking think anymore Skittles Jan 2018 #91

We gained madamesilverspurs Jan 2018 #93

The Republicans lost a powerful election year counter point. Anna Izmail Jan 2018 #95

They didn't lose anything - none of them are going to vote against Trump on this MrPurple Jan 2018 #109

How a man treats a woman matters. Anna Izmail Jan 2018 #119

Oh, so it matters. But not enough to cancel out whatever those other reasons are. kcr Jan 2018 #133

Yeah, that's why they didn't vote for him when the pussygate tape came out. kcr Jan 2018 #129

In fact he did lose a lot of support. Anna Izmail Jan 2018 #132

I have bad news for you. kcr Jan 2018 #135

And I have bad news for you. Anna Izmail Jan 2018 #138

You're mistaken. Al Franken didn't quit. kcr Jan 2018 #140

I'm not doing a happy dance. Anna Izmail Jan 2018 #144

I'm going to march in lock step with Al Franken: if he runs again, I'll sinkingfeeling Jan 2018 #164

I agree with you, Nance. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #96

The man was loved by millions BEFORE he became a great Senator. Wwcd Jan 2018 #153

What you said, Nance Hekate Jan 2018 #97

+100000000000000 Alice11111 Jan 2018 #98

These are some great questions Gothmog Jan 2018 #125

Sun Tzu : Mike Niendorff Jan 2018 #128

It was a chess move by Schumer. jg10003 Jan 2018 #131

It is very obvious that this was nothing but a political maneuver. We are all well aware. kcr Jan 2018 #137

It's never a good chess move ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #139

Schumer sacrificed a knight in order to promote a pawn. Except that the knight was immediately jg10003 Jan 2018 #142

That knight wasn't captured ... NanceGreggs Jan 2018 #143

I think we have reached the limits of the chess metaphor jg10003 Jan 2018 #148

Porcupines and late hours...also, where's that soup? n/t rzemanfl Jan 2018 #182

So... pazzyanne Jan 2018 #171

In addition to what you've said, Franken's resignation now leaves to endure Michele Bachmann's Neema Jan 2018 #141

From the sublime to the ridiculous dalton99a Jan 2018 #147

As if we haven't endured enough as a country. eom. Neema Jan 2018 #151

Thank you. susanna Jan 2018 #146

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Face it Nance. Al Franken was clearly suffering from delusions. Ernest Partridge Jan 2018 #154

Would you mind clarifying what "oligarchy" you're referring to? brooklynite Jan 2018 #185

Senator Michelle Bachmann! wolfie001 Jan 2018 #159

Well said. DLevine Jan 2018 #165

Credibility. Trumpocalypse Jan 2018 #170

I wonder why this OP is not appearing on DU's homepage under "Greatest Threads"? demmiblue Jan 2018 #173

I can't even reply anymore...I'm just devastated by Franken's resignation nadine_mn Jan 2018 #176

I regret that I have but one rec to give for this post. n/t Beartracks Jan 2018 #177

Ditto n/t harun Jan 2018 #190

Say it! tymorial Jan 2018 #186

K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #188

Franken probably knows how much truth there was in the allegations... Orsino Jan 2018 #189

There was no truth in the allegations. And the fact that he treated his accusers with respect ucrdem Jan 2018 #191

k and r, and spot on, as always. niyad Jan 2018 #192

I'm interested in knowing as well Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2018 #197

They don't listen and will never get it! Chasstev365 Jan 2018 #201

Perfectly stated, Nance. Al is a huge loss. It is still shocking R B Garr Jan 2018 #203