Those of you who think calling for Franken's resignation ...

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47. So wait? The accusations against Franken aren't enough in your mind, unless Republicans

based on accusations (which weren't enough to condemn Franken) demanded resignations. That's some rather circular "logic".

Here's the reason to make Franken resign. Sexual harassment, which serial groping most certainly is, is wrong. I don't care if Republicans don't stop supporting Roy Moore (although given Trump won by nearly 28% and Roy Moore lost by 1.5%, your entire point about Republicans not caring is rather absurd on its face). I don't care if Trump doesn't resign. The point of taking a stand against sexual harassment, is that it's bad. Women (and men) need to be safe from sexual harassment. My morality isn't dependent on somebody else agreeing to be good too. Just like we all think George Bush was wrong for supporting torture.

With 8 separate women accusing him, several of whom spoke out at the time, there is an astonishingly small chance he's not guilty. Just like it's astonishingly unlikely that Trump, Moore, Weinstein, Spacey and all the rest aren't guilty. Franken himself could only muster that he didn't remember doing anything. I can remember the exactly zero times I've groped somebody. Do you believe that Trump didn't grope women? That Roy Moore didn't harass minors? That Cosby didn't drug/rape women? Exactly zero of those have been conclusively proven. Why do you only not believe the women who accuse your hero? You act like the accusers posted randomly on Twitter. The news media who reported these had the chance to vet them. Just like the Washington Post found the Project Veritas plant was a fake, these accusers were also investigated.

A Senate ethics investigation would have been a joke. They literally do nothing. The ethics committee dismisses 90+% of all cases summarily. And the "worst" punishment is a letter. There won't be video evidence of this. Just like there's rarely video evidence of rape. What evidence do you think was going to come out in a Senate ethics committee hearing that would change your mind?

But if you want evidence that the Republican perception on sexual harassment is changing, Lindsay Graham, is a sponsor for a bill protecting workers from being forced to go to private arbitration (where employees regularly lose). Last year, he voted to take those protections away.

You aren't thinking about this logically. You don't want to believe it, so you won't see it because you're invested in a particular outcome. It makes for great passion, but not clear thinking.