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101. There is no excuse for dumb politics

Fri Jan 5, 2018, 06:42 PM

Jan 2018

that put a safe Dem seat in play for absolutely no gain. They could've had an ethics investigation before ganging up and demanding he resign. If he got to 2020 and no substantial evidence were discovered he would get re-elected going away or even if they did find damaging evidence against him he could've resigned then and Democrats could've just ran for the open seat. Now they have to run for it in 2018 as well as 2020.

The whole NY,NJ crew Senators Corey Booker,Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand deserve extra criticism because Bob Mendez a Senator from their own back yard was on under investigation charges for the longest and not one of them demanded he resign. They look like hypocrites.

This idea that getting rid of Franken makes it easier for us to attack Trump on sexual allegations claims is a fantasy. Trump will just make Al Franken his new Bernie Sanders. Will not matter what Franken says about it publicly Trump will stay on message and pretend Franken is his best friend. 'He will say look Franken was railroaded with sexual accusations and "I am being railroaded too."

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Calling for resignation without investigation was dumb politics. [View all] Jakes Progress Jan 2018 OP

A big K&R. Gullibility and ambition does not a good leader of our party make. brush Jan 2018 #1

How does an investigation prove Franken's tongue Hortensis Jan 2018 #10

There were several issues which could have been investigated dsc Jan 2018 #13

It would only have sown confusion, but every Hortensis Jan 2018 #83

Considering the source, that particular item does NOT ... dchill Jan 2018 #15

And this "logic" is why victims don't come forward. You are invested in not believing it mythology Jan 2018 #61

I am "invested" in due process, an institution that... dchill Jan 2018 #67

Due Process is irrelevant lacking a trial. LanternWaste Jan 2018 #89

Smart analysis Hortensis Cary Jan 2018 #53

Not so smart. An investigation, which Tweeden blanched at, would've gotten the facts out. brush Jan 2018 #57

Truly. She signed up to be the actress for the script. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #68

They turned an investigation into a big trap by Hortensis Jan 2018 #84

I think we win 0 from this and lose 100pc. I do agree Alice11111 Jan 2018 #93

In a bad situation, that last is exactly what we did. Hortensis Jan 2018 #95

Well, we disagree in several respects. That's OK. I've been over the Alice11111 Jan 2018 #96

He and smarter people than him would have for sure. Hortensis Jan 2018 #98

Plutacracy, for sure. I really want them gone. Never liked them, Alice11111 Jan 2018 #99

+100. A huge piece of common ground. :) Hortensis Jan 2018 #100

Yes. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #102

How does her saying it when not under oath Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #69

BTW, you are 100pc correct. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #104

Take her out! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #18

... LexVegas Jan 2018 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Jan 2018 #5

I know can you believe this crap !!!! n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #49

I don't think they were fooled for a minute. ananda Jan 2018 #3

Spot on!!! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #20

Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #85

as much as I love Franken & he is the sacrificial lamb Motley13 Jan 2018 #4

Sure they will. Denzil_DC Jan 2018 #8

You've got to be kidding. The Repubs made this shit into Alice11111 Jan 2018 #21

Thank you for sanity here, Alice. Duppers Jan 2018 #62

Welcome. "Butter knife to a gunfight," Good one. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #63

Yep, I'm not implying be like them Duppers Jan 2018 #64

100pc agree!!! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #66

It's cute how naive you are. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #70

Recommended. guillaumeb Jan 2018 #6

Yes, a Salem Witch Trial style march to rid us of due process Alice11111 Jan 2018 #22

Calling for an ethics investigation... NCTraveler Jan 2018 #7

It seemed that he was genuinely trying to be respectful of the women MrPurple Jan 2018 #38

Yeah but you have to throw out a denial....which he did not do. nt Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #44

So, you think trump is innocent? Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #71

I would of preferred a more full throated...or hell even a throated denial in the first statement. Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #73

you're right, but Al just left the Senate today MrPurple Jan 2018 #78

Exactly. Too many here think he should have acted like moore and trump. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #74

I agree. More than anything, it was just plain stupid. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #9

Totally accurate statement! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #23

Given the Senate ethics committee is utterly worthless, any investigation would have been meaningles mythology Jan 2018 #11

Sen Minority Leader: Chuck Schumer delisen Jan 2018 #12

He is responsible too. I tried to like him, but he reverted Alice11111 Jan 2018 #25

Harry Reid made a big mistake in endorsing Schumer for leader dalton99a Jan 2018 #36

I agree. If Harry Reid had still been here, this never would have Alice11111 Jan 2018 #37

+1. Harry was a real fighter. dalton99a Jan 2018 #41

Yep, in his quiet, but lethal, way, he got good things done, Alice11111 Jan 2018 #42

It was an embarrassing act of political calculation. byronius Jan 2018 #14

Gillibrand was one of 32 Democratic senators who called for Franken to resign oberliner Jan 2018 #16

Yes, they are all responsible, but she lead the charge. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #26

How has she betrayed the party before? oberliner Jan 2018 #86

Betrayal Alice11111 Jan 2018 #94

She was at the head of the line dhol82 Jan 2018 #27

The other Democrats could have said they disagreed with her oberliner Jan 2018 #87

Yup, they could have dhol82 Jan 2018 #91

Have you ever watched a western movie??? flotsam Jan 2018 #65

Thank you for saying IT! Alice11111 Jan 2018 #17

Setting the party up to lose elections is destructive loyalsister Jan 2018 #19

It put a solid Dem seat into play. SansACause Jan 2018 #24

Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #28

Bachmann is campaigning as we speak. The Repubs Alice11111 Jan 2018 #29

How Many Ways Can You Spell Kompromat? dlk Jan 2018 #30

Well, at least that won't mindlessly follow a traitor to Alice11111 Jan 2018 #39

Why did he resign? Renew Deal Jan 2018 #31

That's not quite right. SansACause Jan 2018 #34

How is that bad? PatrickforO Jan 2018 #81

He didnt admit guilt. He did the exact opposite Nevernose Jan 2018 #35

He should of said that from the get go...I remember this differently and that is not how any Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #46

It was an excellent ratfucking Nevernose Jan 2018 #56

Your memory of the events Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #72

There was flat out denial within his first two statements? Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #75

How will his voice be helpful now Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #90

His colleagues turned on him. rainin Jan 2018 #43

A Lynch mob....firing squad...the drama around here is entertaining. Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #47

What kind of person finds this entertaining? rainin Jan 2018 #52

It's called SARCASM and you can CAN YOUR HYPERBOLE. Hows about that? Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #54

Doubtful, rainin Jan 2018 #55

He NEVER admitted guilt. Just because he didn't do a Dotard Temper Alice11111 Jan 2018 #45

True. That's the point. Not revenge. Lack of leadership and easily manipulated. Honeycombe8 Jan 2018 #32

Yep. Yep. Alice11111 Jan 2018 #40

Get over it already Cary Jan 2018 #33

Sorry Cary - I May Run For Office Someday And Don't Want To Be Driven Out SeaDoo77 Jan 2018 #48

It's called choosing your battles. Cary Jan 2018 #51

ICAM. How can we have LESS republicans in ofice when we push our own out of a dafe seat? lunamagica Jan 2018 #59

Did you notice? Inblueheaven Jan 2018 #50

More and more ridiculous, right? Like the waist hugger accuser and the one who claimed... brush Jan 2018 #60

Repubs: "Dems, if u were rly serious, u'd kneecap one of your own!" Beartracks Jan 2018 #58

Not sure. moondust Jan 2018 #76

"Not sure" That is the breitbart goal. Jakes Progress Jan 2018 #92

My fear of any investigation is that any committee would be headed by the Pubs. napi21 Jan 2018 #77

Not only wrong but totally stupid Raine Jan 2018 #79

No shit. mn9driver Jan 2018 #80

Don't need dumb politics. democratisphere Jan 2018 #82

It weakens and diminishes our party. It was foolish. NurseJackie Jan 2018 #88

KNR Lucinda Jan 2018 #97

There is no excuse for dumb politics standingtall Jan 2018 #101

Dead on! Excellent OP. KPN Jan 2018 #103