Democrats Should Ignore Trump/Bernie on Trade. Look to FDR, Not Hoover

[JCanete]

1. They aren't the fucking same. These articles that try to put them on the same side of protectionism

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are misleading.

I don't know what an unmitigated disaster is here. Kudos to this person simply digging out something that didn't work in the past and saying, thus this can't be done right and is always wrong. Protectionism should be a means of raising wages and conditions internationally and fighting against a race to the bottom in terms of all of these issues. It should not be used to simply benefit certain industries without regard to those details. It should not be used to keep good actors who do have high standards from competing with our own. But instead, we don't do this and then our corporations cry crocodile tears about why they can't compete with those nations that pay their employees dirt and don't worry about the environmental costs, etc, thus they need more lax regulations here. And that becomes their excuse for outsourcing, and why shouldn't they. They pay no penalty for having their products made overseas. No tarrifs are applied to their products when they have them made under the worst conditions possible. I mean, foxxconn is lovely and all, but there are shittier companies out there too.


and wow what a video...that's downright offensive. Context is everything. just pulling shit out and sticking it together like that is awful. Trump is saying jobs jobs jobs without ideas or content behind it, or rather, the idea behind it has nothing to do with the American worker. When he says we're getting a shitty deal, that isn't what he means. He's looking for protectionism as no means at all of protecting the American worker. He is mad that he thinks ridiculously that our elite are losing to bad trade deals. Sanders on the other hand is furious that the trade deals benefit the elites here and abroad at the expense of people everywhere. He certainly isn't just promoting jobs as an empty talking point. He's promoting fair wages and treatment for people in those jobs. Yes, regarding, their rhetoric on nafta, there are similarities. Trump found that it could be useful and stole the language from Sanders, hell, by is own admission in the video. That doesn't make their actual positions even remotely similar, especially not their solutions. Nor does Trump's cynical use of these talking points make Sanders wrong on them.