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radhika

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89. Gillbrand lost my support forever....

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2018, 02:59 PM

Apr 2018

Railroaded Franken for her ego, with no value rendered to the issues of harassment. I believe she made a grab for alpha-spot, and thought this would catapult her to a front runner. Ain't gonna work.

If she had exploited the #MEETOO moment to challenge the entire Senate to come up with common, across-the-board gradated standard that would apply them to any legislator, that's one thing. If the Pugs refused to work with her on that, use that against them and simply give Franken a slap on the hand pending a fair policy.

But her way, nothing was gained, and someone valuable was lost just when the nation needs fearless Progressive voices. Thinking back to his challenge to Session, for example.

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Major Dem donor hints she'll withhold funds after 'vigilante' Democrats forced Al Franken to resign [View all] workinclasszero Apr 2018 OP

Can't blame her BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #1

Yup workinclasszero Apr 2018 #2

Many here tried to make that case BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #3

But we are going high! -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #10

Yeah no doubt BannonsLiver Apr 2018 #18

Its second only to 'keeping our powder dry'. poboy2 Apr 2018 #38

Damn right. cwydro Apr 2018 #16

The AF's fellow Democrats disndat Apr 2018 #101

Infuriating that it made no difference. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2018 #116

Like me Scruffy1 Apr 2018 #118

You got it. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2018 #131

Yup. That and a low-rated AM right-wing has-been radio station calimary Apr 2018 #123

Exactly Mel Apr 2018 #127

+1 OnDoutside Apr 2018 #4

Pure Bull DownriverDem Apr 2018 #34

You at exactly right SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #50

Must be one or the other tazkcmo Apr 2018 #107

No, Franken was a huge loss - it was the railroad job that helped the Repubs. PatrickforO Apr 2018 #75

Al and Amy Klobuchar were two of the most production Senators CentralMass Apr 2018 #84

She can donate to other Democrats, just not those who went after Franken lunamagica Apr 2018 #112

It is, sure as hell! BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #66

I absolutely agree! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2018 #122

I cannot blame her. Tipperary Apr 2018 #5

My, my, my. Who would have predicted this happening? TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #6

Couldn't agree more..seems to me Gillibrand opened mouth, inserted foot... asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #7

Gillibrand -- forever disqualified for higher office. /nt philly_bob Apr 2018 #21

It's not even like this is her first thing, either. Stryst Apr 2018 #24

Is this true? Control-Z Apr 2018 #73

Ill look it up, but I doubt it. Shes been anti-gun since in the Senate aikoaiko Apr 2018 #80

Yeah, I looked. Control-Z Apr 2018 #87

Oh, that validates one of my suspicions about her -- RandomAccess Apr 2018 #109

I feel pretty much the same. eom Control-Z Apr 2018 #132

Yes. She flipped. CentralMass Apr 2018 #90

Let me know DownriverDem Apr 2018 #35

I would expect Gillibrand would have been more pragmatic when the Franken issue was asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #41

Gillibrand's "A" rating from the NRA was downgraded to an "F" in 2010 after she was elected... Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2018 #97

I stand corrected..thanks..I should have checked....eom asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #98

You're welcome. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2018 #105

Not suporting Gillibrand has nothing to do with the GOP. IluvPitties Apr 2018 #51

I'm doing the same thing hurple Apr 2018 #8

Please do it DownriverDem Apr 2018 #36

75? Susie Tompkins Buell (ne Russell, born 1943) poboy2 Apr 2018 #47

There is a difference hurple Apr 2018 #91

Or, let's put it another way... hurple Apr 2018 #92

Good. Gillibrand went from my short-list of picks to my No-Way-in-Hell List for that shit! Stand and Fight Apr 2018 #9

Agree, with a caveat... CincyDem Apr 2018 #13

Agreed. n/t Stand and Fight Apr 2018 #33

Same here workinclasszero Apr 2018 #74

Yeah - that NRA thing bothers me too... CincyDem Apr 2018 #85

Like I said, I would vote for her if she is the democratic candidate workinclasszero Apr 2018 #88

In the primary Id sooner vote for Satan. 47of74 Apr 2018 #113

Good! IluvPitties Apr 2018 #15

.... LexVegas Apr 2018 #11

Apparently for Ms Buell it's Me Too unless inconvenient mythology Apr 2018 #12

No. Multiple Anonymous women came foward Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #17

Investigations of Lauer and F showed that they spooky3 Apr 2018 #20

Don't think you got it. lark Apr 2018 #23

How Apt A Screenname! (nt) ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #31

Ugh. Demit Apr 2018 #94

Did Lauer et al. wryter2000 Apr 2018 #128

Actions and consequences Drahthaardogs Apr 2018 #14

Franken got his own self out... Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #19

Agree. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2018 #22

It's tough when your own side is seeking your scalp. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #29

Same Thought ProfessorGAC Apr 2018 #30

Exactly. That made a huge difference. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #39

Exactly - hopefully we have not heard the last of Franken....eom asiliveandbreathe Apr 2018 #42

Often, we call those 'primaries.' LanternWaste Apr 2018 #44

Had the Republican been after him he would have. But riding it out when it was Autumn Apr 2018 #111

And you dont hear any of them speaking out against the pResident right now. padah513 Apr 2018 #114

Susie Thompkins Buell should reach out disndat Apr 2018 #25

I share her anger, but we cannot afford this right now. Adrahil Apr 2018 #26

I agree with that. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #119

Understandable still_one Apr 2018 #27

Don't withhold. Spend that money on other races. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #28

I imagine that's what she's going to do wryter2000 Apr 2018 #129

Franken got railroaded, but he also laid down on the tracks Azathoth Apr 2018 #32

...because KG and other (D)'s were at the throttle. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #40

No, he had plenty of time to push back Azathoth Apr 2018 #46

I totally disagree, TheCowsCameHome Apr 2018 #54

Good for her hueymahl Apr 2018 #37

Step right up. Pick your favorite. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #43

Sen Sanders & Sen Warren Wwcd Apr 2018 #53

Both of them are on my list. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #56

Didn't know that about Manchin. I have to locate his personal statement as to why Wwcd Apr 2018 #59

Even after Franken announced his resignation. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #63

Manchin calls on Franken to unresign/ Dec.18.2017 Wwcd Apr 2018 #68

Hey, fair and liberal Democrats - disndat Apr 2018 #57

I see nothing despicable about KG. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #62

Nah that comment can be serious standingtall Apr 2018 #64

He quit before there could be an ethics investigation. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #65

There could not be an ethics investigation because the people that would have standingtall Apr 2018 #67

Thanks for the list. bookmarking for convenience The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #125

Bye Felicia Tarc Apr 2018 #45

No Offense but DownriverDem Apr 2018 #48

I'm pretty fucking old, thanks, since you keep asking. Demit Apr 2018 #95

Great news SCantiGOP Apr 2018 #49

Yep DownriverDem Apr 2018 #72

Meanwhile, we are stuck with 'Pussy Grabber' and felon Eric Greitens. joanbarnes Apr 2018 #52

Yeah, where is KB in front of cameras demanding the resignation of the pussy grabber in chief workinclasszero Apr 2018 #77

Led to fragging our own by Roger Stone and his friend Leeann Tweeden. Suckers-nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #79

Yup workinclasszero Apr 2018 #83

Al Franken pamdb Apr 2018 #55

minngal marieo1 Apr 2018 #58

As is her right. Good for her. nt Ilsa Apr 2018 #60

I stand with Buell's decision on this one. democratisphere Apr 2018 #61

good for her. As long as she is selective in her withholding. Freethinker65 Apr 2018 #69

Been nice to know you Kirsten!! aeromanKC Apr 2018 #70

Mysogyny Lives! TomCADem Apr 2018 #71

"...Franken got railroaded by his fellow Democrats into resigning..." NurseJackie Apr 2018 #76

I hope she still donates to the non witchhunters, notice how none of those women pursued diane in sf Apr 2018 #78

That is her. Snackshack Apr 2018 #81

Works for me. jalan48 Apr 2018 #82

Who would have thought? Due process should be afforded to the man as well. rainin Apr 2018 #86

Gillbrand lost my support forever.... radhika Apr 2018 #89

It's her money she could support Kermit and miss Piggy if she wants dembotoz Apr 2018 #93

Don't let the door hit you on the way out! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #96

Wow, that was extremely out of bounds? A Democratic, rich, entitled donor? Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #106

Good! ananda Apr 2018 #99

Shes not the only one. Gilibrand fucked up. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2018 #100

Sounds reasonable ollie10 Apr 2018 #102

consequence heaven05 Apr 2018 #103

I admire his decision Lazy Daisy Apr 2018 #104

Good for her blueinredohio Apr 2018 #108

Good. Paladin Apr 2018 #110

Those awful "fellow Democrats" those Progressive dog Apr 2018 #115

Yea Im pissed Franklin resigned but Im apopoletic about Trump. Forgive and forget Pepsidog Apr 2018 #117

Good. Yes, Gillibrand spearheaded it. Because Franken was in the way of her Presidential plans. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #120

In days gone past, they once thought the pulp in orange juice wasn't worth keeping nolabels Apr 2018 #121

Good. Owl Apr 2018 #124

ha bdamomma Apr 2018 #126

This could well improve the line rock Apr 2018 #130