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Nanjeanne

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99. I believe Joy has evolved. I have no problem with accepting that. What I dont

Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:47 AM

Apr 2018

accept is the bull about the hack. She is a journalist on tv with two shows and countless panel appearances as a journalist. She is not my friend, my mother, my neighbor. As a journalist I think truthfulness matters. I hate that MSNBC gave Brian Williams a platform. And I do not accept Joy’s initial go-to being hacking. It is the newest craze and sorry — I blame Russian involvement for lots of things. Not this. Joy to me is sorry she wrote those awful blogs and is now a supporter of a community she once made fun of. That’s great. Good for her. As a journalist, nope not on her team. But then I didn’t like her in 2008 when she was horrible about Clinton in her support of Obama. In 2016 I didn’t like how horrible she was about Sanders, who she previously liked so much, in support of Clinton. So I’m sure my feelings about her less than truthfulness about the “hacking” are colored by those other “evolving times”.

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Joy Reid apologizes and says experts haven't proven she was hacked [View all] oberliner Apr 2018 OP

So here we go again eh? Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #1

Being obsessed with the truth is a good thing oberliner Apr 2018 #6

No, I don't think those claims should be ignored. janterry Apr 2018 #29

Will no one think of all the scavenger species? hlthe2b Apr 2018 #26

At least 50-75 posts on this one subject in the last few days. Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #28

What a way to obliterate her heartfelt apology. Quite an agenda there. bettyellen Apr 2018 #2

This a pretty good distillation of why this Joy Reid stuff really matters oberliner Apr 2018 #5

Louis Peitzman: George II Apr 2018 #37

Where do you see that on his twitter profile? oberliner Apr 2018 #46

Some folks seem to love the tearing down of liberals like Reid and Franken Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #12

Reid said her blog was hacked - and is still saying she does not believe she wrote those posts oberliner Apr 2018 #18

Why not allow the truth to play out before throwing her under the bus? Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #23

I don't believe she should be thrown under a bus - I like her show and hope she stays on oberliner Apr 2018 #24

Really? You think post like this will help her 'stay on'? Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #90

I don't think this post will impact her staying on the air one way or another oberliner Apr 2018 #97

Occasionally? Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #106

Yes, Joy's claims that she was hacked have not been disproved or proved. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #31

Then why apologize? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #36

Because.. she had other posts that she apologized for.. Cha Apr 2018 #47

The ones she admitted making, previously ? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #53

There would be nothing to apologize for... I think Joy was apologizing just in case InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #104

I'm sorry for the words I deny writing 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #108

She said that cybersecurity experts have been examining the claim since December oberliner Apr 2018 #48

But she says she doesn't believe the words are her own? 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #57

Apologizing makes her seem guilty? Not to me. I think she's trying to make it clear..... marble falls Apr 2018 #95

Guilty? No. I just don't see the point in her apologizing for something 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #101

She's putting oil on the water. She's not striking back, she's not putting gas on the fire.... marble falls Apr 2018 #103

I think it's a good move on Joy's part to apologize anyway, even without necessarily InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #105

Her actions are what matters but 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #107

TBH, I'm a little disappointed too, the same way I was with Al Franken's misconduct... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #109

I'm not disappointed for what someone said 94Mountaineer Apr 2018 #110

Agreed... Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #87

What the post does most effectively is not to evicerate Joy, who I think gave a fair explaination JCanete Apr 2018 #22

As opposed to the "bandwagon of DU posting here that automatically" condemn her before... George II Apr 2018 #38

At what point will the full truth be determined? oberliner Apr 2018 #49

When it is determined. No sooner, no later. George II Apr 2018 #50

"I hired cybersecurity experts to see if somebody had manipulated my words or my former blog... oberliner Apr 2018 #52

Did she say they were finished? What's your beef with Joy Anne Reid? George II Apr 2018 #56

I have no beef with her - but consider what would Joy Reid say oberliner Apr 2018 #59

Why don't you ask her instead of speculating? George II Apr 2018 #63

no, but there is a huge difference between adopting an outlandish(though possible) JCanete Apr 2018 #86

That's a great perspective and commentary on this subject, thanks. George II Apr 2018 #100

ya know, as a gay man myself I might have issues with what went down. m-lekktor Apr 2018 #30

Thanks for your deeply honest post... I would have felt better if Joy had InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #34

Once this DU post came to light, it was pretty obvious that there was no hack Exotica Apr 2018 #71

Thanks for sharing that oberliner Apr 2018 #73

I finally made my mind up tonight when she said she couldn't find any evidence of hacks Exotica Apr 2018 #75

Me too... just wish Joy had lumped the later-discovered blog comments with the earlier ones and InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #78

TBH, as a person of colour and a lesbian, I well and truly am so used to casual (or not so casual) Exotica Apr 2018 #80

I think you pretty much summed up my feelings on this topic as well. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #82

Great summary, Exotica TheDormouse Apr 2018 #111

Sorry but the OP is heavily edited to omit anything positive about Joy - so I feel it's a hit job in bettyellen Apr 2018 #60

The OP is the first four paragraphs of a CNN story oberliner Apr 2018 #74

Bless your heart OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #3

Salty, huh? nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #4

Many of us are still clinging to the belief that facts matter. oberliner Apr 2018 #7

Good grief. peabody Apr 2018 #10

I was quoting the tweet I posted above from Louis Peitzman oberliner Apr 2018 #14

Then why not wait until ALL facts that matter are determined? You've come to the conclusion.... George II Apr 2018 #39

yeah, facts matter.. but metaphorically Cha Apr 2018 #51

I agree that her apology for her past statements was heartfelt oberliner Apr 2018 #54

Sometimes people forget. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #64

That would have been a reasonable statement oberliner Apr 2018 #68

I don't disagree. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #85

Agreed. That was a non-apology apology. TheDormouse Apr 2018 #112

That's a fair way to look at it... doesn't make you a bad person. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #83

You sound angry. herding cats Apr 2018 #65

Not angry at all - just surprised and frustrated with some of the responses oberliner Apr 2018 #72

I've not a clue which posts of yours you think generates attention. herding cats Apr 2018 #77

My theory is that the negative/controversial posts are the more prominent ones oberliner Apr 2018 #88

Especially facts that hurt our side and cause division. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #91

I would say even facts that might hurt our side (rather than especially) oberliner Apr 2018 #96

Again with this? mcar Apr 2018 #8

CNN published this article a few hours ago oberliner Apr 2018 #17

It a fair issue as Joy made it one... it's just that there's no proof that what she said was a lie. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #32

But she has said that there is no evidence to support her claim oberliner Apr 2018 #45

Had Joy done that from the beginning, no doubt this whole thing would've blown over in 1 or 2 days. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #84

Franken 2020 ! stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #9

+1 XRubicon Apr 2018 #11

He'd get my support oberliner Apr 2018 #15

Count me IN!!!!! Exotica Apr 2018 #81

I would expect that a humble sojourner for truth TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #13

She is still saying she doesn't believe she wrote those blog posts oberliner Apr 2018 #16

So, truth isn't you objective. TheSmarterDog Apr 2018 #19

Truth is my only objective oberliner Apr 2018 #20

That's not been made clear... but, given that Joy does not remember InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #35

So the truth of whether or not her blog was hacked is irrelevant? oberliner Apr 2018 #44

It is yet to be determined if it was hacked or not...thus your post assumes guilt. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #92

Joy Reid said that she hired cybersecurity experts in Dec. to see if someone hacked her blog oberliner Apr 2018 #94

I did read it and heard it on TV...and there are reports she was hacked...and it is not complete yet Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #113

Speaking of posting things and then deleting........ Kingofalldems Apr 2018 #21

I self-deleted numerous posts (there was no hacking) oberliner Apr 2018 #25

LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #27

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Apr 2018 #40

Thats completety out of line. KTM Apr 2018 #42

Right.. Good to hear that.. don't win agruments by censoring news on Cha Apr 2018 #55

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #114

Thanks for that oberliner Apr 2018 #62

+1 leftstreet Apr 2018 #66

I add them to my Jury Blacklist so they can not decide my fate on posts. There's only a few doing it TheBlackAdder Apr 2018 #76

You seem to see "stalkers" everywhere. ehrnst Apr 2018 #115

I trashed your anti Franken screeds, and I'm now trashing Pathwalker Apr 2018 #33

Thank you. George II Apr 2018 #41

Joy Reid is amazing - I love her show and think she is a great voice for progressives oberliner Apr 2018 #43

this is the last straw for me. You're trolling us. bigtree Apr 2018 #58

This is an article at CNN oberliner Apr 2018 #61

You seem to be. peabody Apr 2018 #67

Well said, peabody. Cha Apr 2018 #69

The CNN article is reasonable and makes good points oberliner Apr 2018 #70

more division always... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #93

Jesus ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #79

This again? I don't believe I have ever seen you post anything that can be considered to help our Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #89

With all due respect, that is a ridiculous assertion oberliner Apr 2018 #98

I believe Joy has evolved. I have no problem with accepting that. What I dont Nanjeanne Apr 2018 #99

Obsession by Oberliner PubliusEnigma Apr 2018 #102