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nolabels

(13,133 posts)
13. That is pure B.S.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 12:55 PM
Aug 2018

Dictation of the prosecution's narrative by the sitting judge is not part of the US Justice system in modern times. That is kangaroo court by definition

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kangaroo court
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Kangaroo Court
[Slang of U.S. origin.] An unfair, biased, or hasty judicial proceeding that ends in a harsh punishment; an unauthorized trial conducted by individuals who have taken the law into their own hands, such as those put on by vigilantes or prison inmates; a proceeding and its leaders who are considered sham, corrupt, and without regard for the law.

The concept of kangaroo court dates to the early nineteenth century. Scholars trace its origin to the historical practice of itinerant judges on the U.S. frontier. These roving judges were paid on the basis of how many trials they conducted, and in some instances their salary depended on the fines from the defendants they convicted. The term kangaroo court comes from the image of these judges hopping from place to place, guided less by concern for justice than by the desire to wrap up as many trials as the day allowed.

The term is still in common usage by defendants, writers, and scholars critical of a court or a trial. The U.S. Supreme Court has also used it. In in re gault, 387 U.S. 1, 87 S. Ct. 1428, 18 L. Ed. 2d 527 (1967), a case that established that children in juvenile court have the right to due process, the Court reasoned, "Under our Constitution, the condition of being a boy does not justify a kangaroo court." Associate Justice william o. douglas once wrote, "[W]here police take matters in their own hands, seize victims, beat and pound them until they confess, there cannot be the slightest doubt that the police have deprived the victim of a right under the Constitution. It is the right of the accused to be tried by a legally constituted court, not by a kangaroo court" (Williams v. United States, 341 U.S. 97, 71 S. Ct. 576, 95 L. Ed. 774 [1951]).
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https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/kangaroo+court

I think the judge is doing what he can madaboutharry Aug 2018 #1
hmmmm empedocles Aug 2018 #6
Prosecutors pointed out that Manafort himself and his team referred to them as "oligarchs" Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #9
I agree. nt chowder66 Aug 2018 #12
The judge called out both sides for using the term. OneBro Aug 2018 #35
He's right. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #22
Thanks for the link. lamp_shade Aug 2018 #2
Update: The word "spade" can no longer be used. One must say "shovel" from now on. ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #3
OR if I put 3 shovels against the wall and told you to take your pick ? OnDoutside Aug 2018 #16
I don't like having to pick ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #18
The judge has an Mendocino Aug 2018 #20
"Oligarch" has a very specific, negative meaning that shouldn't be used unless EffieBlack Aug 2018 #23
I understand why the judge banned the term ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #24
"Wealthy" is an objective fact - they are wealthy. Mobsters aren't "legitimate" EffieBlack Aug 2018 #25
Question ProudLib72 Aug 2018 #32
It probably wouldn't be grounds for a mistrial, but it could be grounds for reversal on appeal if it EffieBlack Aug 2018 #34
Lipstick on a pig. LakeArenal Aug 2018 #4
Do we know anything about this judge? honest.abe Aug 2018 #5
George W. Bush appointee rusty fender Aug 2018 #15
Sounds ok I suppose. honest.abe Aug 2018 #19
I know! rusty fender Aug 2018 #21
He leans to no-nonsense quick trials. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #27
Let's use Rich assholes instead! CanonRay Aug 2018 #7
Honestly that's probably the right decision Recursion Aug 2018 #8
Exactly EffieBlack Aug 2018 #26
I don't like this at all.... Corvo Bianco Aug 2018 #10
He's not charged with being paid with dirty money, so that's irrelevant EffieBlack Aug 2018 #36
"Billionaires who acquired monopolistic control over industries maxsolomon Aug 2018 #11
That is pure B.S. nolabels Aug 2018 #13
"Dictation of the prosecution's narrative by the sitting judge is not part of the US Justice system" PoliticAverse Aug 2018 #31
Check the dictionary, judge. moondust Aug 2018 #14
If you don't think it's pejorative, why are you concerned about it not being used? EffieBlack Aug 2018 #29
Judges gonna do what they do gratuitous Aug 2018 #17
Trump is trying to Turbineguy Aug 2018 #28
I guess I need to sit in some trials in South Central LA rufus dog Aug 2018 #30
Yes, you should. You may be surprised. EffieBlack Aug 2018 #37
The evidence is overwhelming against Manafort John Gruff Aug 2018 #33
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