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MooDrew

(41 posts)
31. Damages
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 04:11 PM
Sep 2018

There is a distinction between a contract claim and a tort claim. One doesn't have to show actual economic harm to get a judgment. What provable economic harm did Summer Zervos suffer as a result of Trump's defamation of her? Yet, her case still goes on.

Still, I'd argue Stormy has suffered great harm economic and otherwise as a result of Trump's defamation.

1. As far as I am aware, Trump has yet to publish a retraction of his defamatory statements. He has merely conceded the contract is void. As a result, she is still suffering ongoing harm.

To publish an effective retraction Trump would have to issue a public statement that she wasn't lying and he was. It would have to be made in a venue and manner that was capable of receiving similar media coverage that his denials did. So far, Trump hasn't even made this very basic attempt to mitigate the ongoing harm she is receiving as the result of his defamation.

2. Yes, Trump could argue that she has suffered very little economic damage because her career got a boost. I'd argue the boost to her career is only temporary and the increased costs as the result of his defamation are ongoing.

As the case has begun to fade from the national attention, so has the turnout to her shows and the number of her bookings. I am sure Avenatti will be able to demonstrate with documentation the decline. Porn Stars don't earn residuals from their prior work. The peak money that she made is already declining and will continue to do so as the story continues to fade.

She regularly gets death threats and threats of violence as a result of Trump's defamation. As such she has had to add 24-hour security whereas before she had none. Once her earnings fall back to that of a 39-year-old fading porn star she won't be able to afford this ongoing and necessary expense to keep herself and her family safe. I recall a news story from a while back where a Texas newspaper published pictures of her home. The original article included information that gave away her home address. In the article, several of her neighbors were interviewed and they all said they weren't aware a porn star lives in their neighborhood as they were quiet and kept to themselves. Even the most famous Porn Stars have the sanctuary of their home to return to where they can lead a non-public life. Ms. Daniels no longer does.

As the result of threats from Trump supporters, she had to take her daughter out of school and hire someone to homeschool her. (This was in an interview I read). She can also argue this is what led to her marriage breaking up and the possible loss of custody of her child. Oh, don't forget the Trump supporting police officers that made up an offense so they could arrest her and publically humiliate her. That wouldn't have happened if Trump hadn't defamed her.


I'd argue that overall it is difficult to imagine a defamatory act where one suffers greater harm than when the President of the United States uses the trappings of his office to defame you on multiple occasions. I think she is entitled to a very large judgment.

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I don't get it... SayItLoud Sep 2018 #1
I think it has to do with contract law marylandblue Sep 2018 #2
$130,000 should be pocket change to a "so called" Billionaire.. HipChick Sep 2018 #3
He's notoriously cheap, he's stiffed contractors for much less. marylandblue Sep 2018 #4
i've heard tRumps corporate credit rating is way down in the stink weeds. nt elmac Sep 2018 #7
being cheap would be sane. I think he did it because ginnyinWI Sep 2018 #25
Exactly, screwing over others is his whole ethos- remember him trying to screw the wives of people bettyellen Sep 2018 #26
"So-Called" Le Grand Pronounceur Sep 2018 #12
"So-called" and self-styled." calimary Sep 2018 #23
Yep he's owes hundreds of millions to the russians onetexan Sep 2018 #24
While the agreement may go away, Defamation should not. bitterross Sep 2018 #5
What would you estimate her economic loss to have been? jberryhill Sep 2018 #9
Economic loss is not the only factor. Character is a factor. bitterross Sep 2018 #10
And what would that number work out to. jberryhill Sep 2018 #11
Why don't you put a price on honesty? bitterross Sep 2018 #14
You have not answered the question. former9thward Sep 2018 #16
Again jberryhill Sep 2018 #20
Yet I think she should or could win and get 5$ damages and it's still a win. bettyellen Sep 2018 #27
Damages MooDrew Sep 2018 #31
Agreed empedocles Sep 2018 #32
Welcome to DU. A thoughtful and interesting first post. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #35
Thank You MooDrew Sep 2018 #38
How do you defame a porn star? Say she's moral? 7962 Sep 2018 #33
Wow, that's rude, misogynistic and uncalled for. bitterross Sep 2018 #34
Both men and women do porn. Ragging on a porn star is hardly sexist. 7962 Sep 2018 #37
The case isn't based on her morality. MooDrew Sep 2018 #40
But if you go that route, then others could make the same defamatory claim 7962 Sep 2018 #41
Sigh MooDrew Sep 2018 #46
Using the the term "ragging" certainly is. bitterross Sep 2018 #42
No, you say she is... reACTIONary Sep 2018 #47
It doesn't matter if Cohen was reimbursed by Trump jberryhill Sep 2018 #8
These civil lawsuit depositions are also a so-called "perjury trap" RockRaven Sep 2018 #6
I don't think he's all that frightened. nini Sep 2018 #13
All he has left of the cattle is bullshit world wide wally Sep 2018 #15
Meanwhile in that thread.... yuiyoshida Sep 2018 #17
Good for you...nice picture...... onecent Sep 2018 #22
That kinda looks like an inflamed asshole...... nt 7962 Sep 2018 #39
Right on both yuiyoshida Sep 2018 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author yuiyoshida Sep 2018 #45
I prefer to think of Shithole as Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #18
HAHA!! Good one... AZ8theist Sep 2018 #29
It must be frustrating for Republicans right now because bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #19
Nothing that a few roubles can't assuage. Expect to see more and more not running, erronis Sep 2018 #21
"all hat, no cattle" heaven05 Sep 2018 #28
All Ass-hat and no cattle. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #30
Has anyone explained how Cohen AND Trump would still be co-operating over this ? Doesn't this strike OnDoutside Sep 2018 #36
Going to be a fun primary season oberliner Sep 2018 #43
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