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112. Would you prefer he ran as a third-party candidate?

Reply to Honeycombe8 (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:02 PM

Oct 2018

That should work well.

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South Carolina Democrats: Better if Sanders 'got lost' (don't shoot the messanger, AP story) [View all] Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 OP

He could wait a month or so. guillaumeb Oct 2018 #1

Here he comes! Just in time to divide our party before the midterms Maven Oct 2018 #2

It's his M.O Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #4

..right, like the response itself wasn't the divisive part. If you think that what it is that is JCanete Oct 2018 #12

"Cross-over appeal"? George II Oct 2018 #14

whatever it is people think and are talkiing about here that needs to pull moderates to vote for JCanete Oct 2018 #19

You mean because no Democrats talk about those things? Squinch Oct 2018 #94

What does appealing to Trump voters/republicans mean to you? What is it that should be avoided? JCanete Oct 2018 #98

No you're not. I know this because this conversation has been Squinch Oct 2018 #108

Yes, we've disagreed about what unicorns look like versus horses...and now we as a party have mostly JCanete Oct 2018 #113

Kay. You chat about unicorns and horses. I will say again: Squinch Oct 2018 #119

Then stop disagreeing with sound policy direction. Solved. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #123

That's nice dear. Now lets stop talking about BS so Squinch Oct 2018 #127

again, no we aren't going to stop talking about BS because he keeps being brought up JCanete Oct 2018 #131

yup JHan Oct 2018 #179

Whaaaa? sheshe2 Oct 2018 #175

wow, you totally missed that one. People were calling unicorns what were possible and practical JCanete Oct 2018 #177

I did not miss a thing.eom sheshe2 Oct 2018 #182

then what were you doing? nt JCanete Oct 2018 #184

What are YOU doing? eom sheshe2 Oct 2018 #189

I was making a point, you were talking about unicorns existing, even though, according to you, JCanete Oct 2018 #191

I have a feeling that Pelosi.... WeekiWater Oct 2018 #270

Well your feeling, if you are including me in that category would be wrong. Look at my own posting JCanete Oct 2018 #338

Assumptions are extremely common on discussion boards. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #339

Fair point actually, but in my case you were wrong with this one, and the bigger assumption here, JCanete Oct 2018 #347

Most democrats live in the real world where magic does not work Gothmog Oct 2018 #368

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #367

It's Republicans who don't want higher minimum wage, education, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. betsuni Oct 2018 #103

I'm trying to understand what it is we don't want to talk about so that we can appeal to middle of JCanete Oct 2018 #107

I don't understand your question about what would appeal to Trump voters/Republicans, betsuni Oct 2018 #126

literally from the exerpt posted in the OP: JCanete Oct 2018 #128

I take from that the all or nothing approach makes moderate voters skittish. betsuni Oct 2018 #140

I'm a far lefty Maven Oct 2018 #38

A large number of democrats have long memories Gothmog Oct 2018 #40

Same. nt Maven Oct 2018 #45

What? There was a primary? Establishment Dems skewed the electoral college? DemocracyMouse Oct 2018 #57

Don't divide the party you say? MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #205

If Bernie were to show up, Democrats in South Carolina could lose all their power in that state Uncle Joe Oct 2018 #211

I've asked others who have refused to answer. How would him showing up do any of that? JCanete Oct 2018 #385

Sorry I was using irony, I can't remember the last time Uncle Joe Oct 2018 #388

hehe...no, that's not on you. I should have caught it. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #389

Instead of wasting the time of voters in South Carolina talking about his magical Gothmog Oct 2018 #390

Sanders most valuable asset right now is that people nationally are listening to him. Creating JCanete Oct 2018 #391

That is so cute and adorable Gothmog Oct 2018 #392

Could that be why he's the only Congressional legislator (House AND Senate) who has voted against... George II Oct 2018 #395

Putin must be happy with these votes but putin was helping sanders to help trump Gothmog Oct 2018 #399

Voting for and financially supporting candidates who will challenge big corporate control is a good JCanete Oct 2018 #397

So you have no plan that is viable in the real world Gothmog Oct 2018 #402

I literally told you how Tapper's own bullshit in the interview with Ocasio-Cortez was JCanete Oct 2018 #404

From the Mueller indictment of Russia agents Gothmog Oct 2018 #394

Hmmm..... George II Oct 2018 #396

They weren't trying to get Sanders to win. They were trying to hurt Clinton. That should be obvious, JCanete Oct 2018 #398

These efforts kept sanders in the primary far after he was mathematically eliminated Gothmog Oct 2018 #400

Are you serious? EffieBlack Oct 2018 #401

what exactly did you give me to go on with this post? Why even bother Effie? JCanete Oct 2018 #412

"Let people campaign." Yes, you're correct, they should campaign. But unfortunately .... George II Oct 2018 #244

Why would somebody who is neither running in SC lapucelle Oct 2018 #301

from my perspective? yeah. I kind of think you have to vocally advocate for things in order for them JCanete Oct 2018 #49

But if the local candidates don't want him there, why force it? brush Oct 2018 #64

They don't want him in South Carolina? First of I could give a rats ass. JCanete Oct 2018 #71

Are you not getting that the Dem candidates say he hurts their chances... brush Oct 2018 #129

I know that there is a mainstream block of democrats who simply do not like Sanders JCanete Oct 2018 #135

Ok, I'll spell it out since you're acting a little dense. THE DEM... brush Oct 2018 #145

Yes, and everythign I said applies. I don't see any actual evidence that this hurts them, JCanete Oct 2018 #146

You're not there on the ground so whether you trust the Dems there or not.. brush Oct 2018 #164

No I do not see what you mean. So a republican is linking a candidate who has linked himself to JCanete Oct 2018 #170

Ridiculous. Sanders' playbook of division. He'll regret going there univited. brush Oct 2018 #171

I'll repeat what I added into the last post: JCanete Oct 2018 #173

If you selfishly and foolishly disregard Democrats who you'll need support... brush Oct 2018 #176

no, you are simply privileging the perspective of particular democrats who share your world JCanete Oct 2018 #178

You don't get it. Democrats should work together to get Democrats elected. brush Oct 2018 #180

That sounds like working together to you? I don't get it, and listening to the bombastic rhetoric, JCanete Oct 2018 #183

It's call working to help Democrats but since he's not a Democrat... brush Oct 2018 #185

Great post Gothmog Oct 2018 #238

He's going to the state less than three weeks before the election and yet he's not campaigning... George II Oct 2018 #243

It's not that simple. The repug governor is already using the proposed trip... brush Oct 2018 #245

It's curious that he hasn't endorsed the Democratic Governor candidate or... George II Oct 2018 #247

This is why Bernie got his ass handed to him in SC - and will again if he tries to run in 2020 EffieBlack Oct 2018 #268

Sanders did very poorly in the south Gothmog Oct 2018 #365

Are there any Democrats or Progressives that do well in the South? Autumn Oct 2018 #372

You mean candidates who believe in magical voter revolutions? Gothmog Oct 2018 #373

No. I was very clear in the question I asked. You are ignoring it to meander somewhere else Autumn Oct 2018 #375

I answered your silly question Gothmog Oct 2018 #376

No you didn't answer my "silly question. You wandered off into Autumn Oct 2018 #379

I am sorry that you did not understand or like my answer Gothmog Oct 2018 #381

The last time that I checked the governor of Louisiana is a Democrat. TexasTowelie Oct 2018 #403

I remember asking in 2016 - repeatedly - why didn't Bernie harness his *revolution" EffieBlack Oct 2018 #374

You will not hear anything because magic does not work in the real world Gothmog Oct 2018 #377

Excellent question. With such power at hand, why wasn't it used for a greater purpose? NurseJackie Oct 2018 #410

You really just said this. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #181

Yup mercuryblues Oct 2018 #359

I know what mean, mercuryblues. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #378

I have no idea what you're talking about, how Bernie is doing any harm by energizing those who JCanete Oct 2018 #386

Not at all. I don't care what a few politicians who clearly seem to disdain sanders, JCanete Oct 2018 #384

Yeah they really hated him in 2016 Autumn Oct 2018 #366

How did that work out a few days later? George II Oct 2018 #370

Kind of the same way it worked out in Nov. Autumn Oct 2018 #371

Not even close to "the same way". George II Oct 2018 #382

A Republican won S Carolina so I'm going to stick with it ended the same. Our Autumn Oct 2018 #383

I'm into doers, not big talkers. nt Maven Oct 2018 #155

that doesn't make sense to me. The " doers,"(those I assume you are associating with the term) JCanete Oct 2018 #159

What are sanders' legislative accomplishments? Gothmog Oct 2018 #237

I've had this conversation many times. Do you count things like No child left behind as legislative JCanete Oct 2018 #260

LOL-thank you for the laughs Gothmog Oct 2018 #263

I wasn't calling his opposition a legislative accomplishment silly...I was asking if NCLB's passing JCanete Oct 2018 #265

The media can ignore sanders because sander has not accomplished anything Gothmog Oct 2018 #277

Thank you, Gothmog, for sticking with the real world. When someone's claim R B Garr Oct 2018 #278

I am amused that sanders supporters are mad that the media does not cover him Gothmog Oct 2018 #281

Yup, he might not be able to get by with avoiding answering even basic R B Garr Oct 2018 #299

Here are a very familiar person's words on the NYT, as recently as a couple weeks ago.... JCanete Oct 2018 #294

You have yet to point to even one accomplishment by sanders Gothmog Oct 2018 #295

First, I'm less concerned about Sanders specifically, though my point still stands, JCanete Oct 2018 #296

So you are admitting that sanders has no accomplishments in the real world Gothmog Oct 2018 #311

Okay Goth....good talk. I'll just say thanks for some of what you do. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #313

My twitter feed is full with a ton of oppo on sanders Gothmog Oct 2018 #316

If its anythign I haven't already heard I'd be surprised, and I dont' find most of it that JCanete Oct 2018 #317

Given that you believe in magic and that sanders has magical powers, I have no doubt that you will Gothmog Oct 2018 #326

I live in the real world and I am curious as to what you propose to do to fix corporate media Gothmog Oct 2018 #345

Many consider the Brady Bill to be a legislative accomplishment. lapucelle Oct 2018 #304

But who voted against it? Who voted against banning guns from Amtrak? And while we're at it.... George II Oct 2018 #308

The russia sanctions bill I understand. YOu're talking about the same one Kerry opposed right? JCanete Oct 2018 #337

We're discussing those who were in a position to vote for or against it, and those who voted "nay". George II Oct 2018 #350

Well, for one my point wasn't simply that "well Kerry didn't like it either." My point was JCanete Oct 2018 #354

"Magnitsky Act (which passed 92-4)" melman Oct 2018 #340

Nope, not an oversight at all, they're not under discussion here. So.... George II Oct 2018 #349

Well it's just that melman Oct 2018 #353

There were no "insinuations", at least not by me.... George II Oct 2018 #362

Yet another bill that sanders opposed Gothmog Oct 2018 #312

+1, and Tad Devine.....nt R B Garr Oct 2018 #343

Then why not "vocally advocate" in Vermont to get all the "issues" he R B Garr Oct 2018 #248

They were already in the platform, they were just changed slightly. George II Oct 2018 #249

yes to positions that have literally been called unicorns because of that slight difference. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #256

You're not alone NastyRiffraff Oct 2018 #335

Bingo! LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #48

Oh, how so? betsuni Oct 2018 #320

Bingo? "Orwellian here"?. Orwellian is Big Brother Cha Oct 2018 #361

Nah.. we're not going to hide to truth just because Cha Oct 2018 #360

hmmm...I thought Maven was wrong but then you chimed in adding your voice in support, JCanete Oct 2018 #364

For some, it's more about their "movement" than the Democratic Party. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #47

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #70

I belong to the Democratic Party, which is what this site is about. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #75

Would you prefer he ran as a third-party candidate? shanny Oct 2018 #112

Wouldn't work well for him. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #206

I beg to differ. shanny Oct 2018 #212

That's what a few people keep saying. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #246

lol shanny Oct 2018 #252

I used to be puzzled by that incongruity, too. stranger81 Oct 2018 #259

Bingo. Reagan Democrats. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #314

LOL Reagan Democrats. betsuni Oct 2018 #319

LOL, "Reagan Democrats" has a specific definition and demographic. R B Garr Oct 2018 #329

I can't relate to it at all, it's strange to read it. JHan Oct 2018 #405

Third Way/neoliberal/triangulation/Reagan Democrat are both-sides-same insults. betsuni Oct 2018 #406

Great post, JHan. To attempt to use it as a generic insult R B Garr Oct 2018 #411

Has Vermont adopted single payer yet? Gothmog Oct 2018 #330

Vermont doesn't have $15 per hour wage. They don't have single payer R B Garr Oct 2018 #328

Funny you bring that up. stranger81 Oct 2018 #331

It's just an excuse to limit Sanders' influence to the narrow constraints of R B Garr Oct 2018 #332

Vermont also does not have single payer Gothmog Oct 2018 #387

I saw the article cited in the OP and liked it Gothmog Oct 2018 #3

The irony is... Docreed2003 Oct 2018 #6

I remember the Texas primary Gothmog Oct 2018 #41

Well How About Florida Me. Oct 2018 #101

I remember that also Gothmog Oct 2018 #116

I agree.... chillfactor Oct 2018 #5

It seems likely he'll be around until he just gets too old. Hortensis Oct 2018 #7

He Has A Lot Of Nerve Me. Oct 2018 #15

Funny, but that he sort of hippied around trying out Hortensis Oct 2018 #30

... Me. Oct 2018 #33

He made a lot of money from the Presidential run. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #50

Except We Never Actually Saw His Info Me. Oct 2018 #96

Sanders will have to release this info if runs in 2020 Gothmog Oct 2018 #134

Didn't get a job until he was 40? progressoid Oct 2018 #200

That is pretty well known. Blue_true Oct 2018 #254

From wikipedia (which I didn't write or edit, to head off the obvious): George II Oct 2018 #352

His efforts were failure after failure. Blue_true Oct 2018 #369

Or............. George II Oct 2018 #16

"Or...." indeed. :) Hortensis Oct 2018 #35

... lapucelle Oct 2018 #305

I agree with the OP! Cha Oct 2018 #8

... Me. Oct 2018 #17

As the article says mercuryblues Oct 2018 #9

according to what? Where is the evidence that his appearnce does that? Serious question. JCanete Oct 2018 #13

Is there any evidence that Democrats vote for him in decent numbers? George II Oct 2018 #22

How does that relate to my question? And we know how much people voted for him in the primary. JCanete Oct 2018 #23

We know that Democrats in large numbers do not vote for him, it's been proven..... George II Oct 2018 #27

He engerizes some voters other candidates don't. He has certainly helped to make 3rd rail positions JCanete Oct 2018 #28

Growing up in NYC and taking the subway to both High School and College.... George II Oct 2018 #29

The problem is pretending things are third rails when they aren't and shouldn't be. Turns out if JCanete Oct 2018 #32

Sorry, I have NO idea of what you're talking about, nor do I have any idea of what the second half.. George II Oct 2018 #34

neither of us probably knows what the other is talking about. I'm clearly missing your point, JCanete Oct 2018 #55

Hmm. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #90

Some is not just a few. Some is some. A few is a few. Look up some. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #92

some sheshe2 Oct 2018 #106

at least a small amount. So did this somehow corroborate your statement that this means few? JCanete Oct 2018 #110

small seems few to me. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #117

okay, yet it wasn't what I meant, nor what the word means so...I guess read it how you will? JCanete Oct 2018 #122

Had you said something like that you'd be told you were "parsing words"! George II Oct 2018 #232

;) sheshe2 Oct 2018 #257

Some doesn't cut it in elections. You need MOST to win. Not rocket science. brush Oct 2018 #271

nor is it rocket science to understand that I said there are some voters Sanders energizes JCanete Oct 2018 #290

I was wondering the same thing Gothmog Oct 2018 #139

;) sheshe2 Oct 2018 #143

There are a large number (more than some) democrats with long memories Gothmog Oct 2018 #150

Yep. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #167

And sanders pisses off far more voters who reliable members of the base Gothmog Oct 2018 #114

according to who? Show me evidence of that? That wouldn't gel with his actual popularity amongst JCanete Oct 2018 #115

I saw the election results in the 2016 super tuesday primaries Gothmog Oct 2018 #133

oh I see, totally separate tangent. Thanks for your contribution. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #136

You are welcomed Gothmog Oct 2018 #141

I do not believe in magic and so I never took sanders seriously Gothmog Oct 2018 #149

You can only raise money from big money interests if your own agenda does not belie theirs. JCanete Oct 2018 #188

Does Beto and other candidates know this? Gothmog Oct 2018 #231

That "backed primarily by small donations" is a misnomer, it's not what happened. You should pore.. George II Oct 2018 #240

You'll have to point me to the specific data you're referring to...from his FEC filings JCanete Oct 2018 #264

I'm talking about the 2018 Senate general election in Vermont... George II Oct 2018 #267

oh fuck, come on. so I just talked about the primaries, so I was hardly trying to trick you into JCanete Oct 2018 #269

On the DU Bernie raised $77,149.00 from 2,108 donations Omaha Steve Oct 2018 #272

the exact opposite is true mercuryblues Oct 2018 #186

Apparently, according to the article in the OP, he is turning off Democrats as well. George II Oct 2018 #230

NOW, I'm weary of this. He never really deeply bothered me with, sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #148

Bad timing with the devastating hurricane and it's aftermath... sheshe2 Oct 2018 #10

maybe, but its not like that isn't about the 1%. The tie-in is pretty fucking easy. JCanete Oct 2018 #20

It is not the TIME. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #24

wasn't invited by whom? JCanete Oct 2018 #25

He is holding a campaign event for Our Revolution. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #36

He's doing something with Our Revolution, which did invite him to speak. So what on earth JCanete Oct 2018 #52

Oh. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #56

To South Carolina? The Our Revolution chapter in South Carolina? Do they need to be JCanete Oct 2018 #58

Normally this deep into a General Election campaign a candidate spends most of his/her time.... George II Oct 2018 #79

Your point is not one I agree with, though you've made it frequently enough. Sanders has JCanete Oct 2018 #142

No seat is "locked up" - I direct you to Hillary Clinton's seat in 2016, and most recently.... George II Oct 2018 #147

except that your argument still balances on the precarious assumption that what he is JCanete Oct 2018 #160

And once again you respond to me, but drift and don't really respond. Why? George II Oct 2018 #168

Sanders tends to actively support candidates who are concerned JCanete Oct 2018 #169

"Concerned with money in politics"? Currently his re-election treasury.... George II Oct 2018 #241

I don't know what he's going to do with that money, but where did it come from? JCanete Oct 2018 #261

We don't know where it came from - 76% of the $9.8 million he's collected is "unitemized".... George II Oct 2018 #266

Hmmm sheshe2 Oct 2018 #187

and what is his stance on prisons, particularly private ones, but incarceration in general? JCanete Oct 2018 #190

You are a hoot. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #194

What do you mean he has no voice? He uses his voice and vote power to advocate for federal JCanete Oct 2018 #195

... lapucelle Oct 2018 #309

It is a major problem. It isn't on Sanders that the State incarcerates at the level it does, JCanete Oct 2018 #310

Marginalized constituents in VT are better served by BS using his bully pulpit lapucelle Oct 2018 #318

Perhaps BS could call upon those who voted in favor of the Crime Bill lapucelle Oct 2018 #321

+1 betsuni Oct 2018 #323

Our Revolution has endorsed only one Congressional candidate and two State Rep candidates.... George II Oct 2018 #130

Hallquist seems to be happy with Bernie's endorsement and outreach Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #250

I wonder how she feels about him not campaigning for her in HIS home state? George II Oct 2018 #251

Ah, the ol' double negative two-step. Let's turn that around and be more direct..... George II Oct 2018 #37

So the same could be said of anybody who goes anywhere, which makes it a worthless comment. JCanete Oct 2018 #59

Worthless comment? Thanks for your respect! George II Oct 2018 #81

To say he wasn't invited means very little if it is going to be broadened out to the level that you JCanete Oct 2018 #89

Once again, I have no idea of what that all means. I'll leave it at that except..... George II Oct 2018 #93

how so? The point was made that he wasn't invited, whiich is, to my mind pretty silly. You decided JCanete Oct 2018 #102

"Worthless comment"? That's rude and insulting. Cha Oct 2018 #84

So are a lot of things here. I'll try to do better Cha. Thankfully you are never rude and insulting. JCanete Oct 2018 #91

snark? sheshe2 Oct 2018 #99

Your comment was rude and insulting right now. Cha Oct 2018 #100

heh...okay, thanks for letting me know. Feel free to let me know if this one was. nt JCanete Oct 2018 #104

Presumptious Of Him Me. Oct 2018 #11

Considering how poorly he did in the South, I'm wondering who invited him, and what's changed? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2018 #18

It's just visibility for a 2020 run, but boy is he in a bubble. I'm hoping he starts to see that seaglass Oct 2018 #21

They are going to be hit by the aftermath of Michael. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #26

The story strikes me as potentially exciting for some people. David__77 Oct 2018 #31

Flame me if you want zeusdogmom Oct 2018 #39

Or... sheshe2 Oct 2018 #43

Both. Cha Oct 2018 #51

Great post Gothmog Oct 2018 #111

Another "both" here. He goes where the cameras are Hortensis Oct 2018 #380

How about "both" and then some? George II Oct 2018 #393

:) Seriously, when behavior and rhetoric diverge, believe behavior. Hortensis Oct 2018 #407

Rec. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #42

From AP, or maybe Moscow nt elmac Oct 2018 #44

Moscow? Are you trying to say it's "fake news" like so many are pushing now? Cha Oct 2018 #62

You are calling the Associated Press "fake news." betsuni Oct 2018 #68

The AP is not Moscow. Raine1967 Oct 2018 #72

Say what? sheshe2 Oct 2018 #152

Bernie Go To South Carolina And Kick Some Ass PaulX2 Oct 2018 #46

South Carolina Dems need votes from moderates. It's not NY. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #54

You "deal with it". Cha Oct 2018 #66

Me thinks they doest protest too much LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #53

Exactly PaulX2 Oct 2018 #61

The "frightened cabal at the top worried about their large corporate donators" are Republicans. betsuni Oct 2018 #65

Thank You for pointing it out to that poster, betsuni. Cha Oct 2018 #69

Who doesn't know that? betsuni Oct 2018 #73

We know them by their disingenuous Cha Oct 2018 #78

You actually believe that it is that cut and dry? LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #77

The "both parties are the same" thing is old and tired. Let it go to bed. betsuni Oct 2018 #83

Not once have I ever said both parties are the same LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #85

What you're pushing are the usual tiresome boilerplate memes. JHan Oct 2018 #87

Please give me a couple of examples of Democrats receiving large corporate donations and changing betsuni Oct 2018 #88

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #132

Well, I guess not. Obviously Republicans are the corporate party. betsuni Oct 2018 #325

Yes, republicons are the corporate party and anyone Cha Oct 2018 #358

Bernie is now a multimillionaire. sheshe2 Oct 2018 #163

4 homes? progressoid Oct 2018 #201

I keep hearing that Bill & Hillary are rich corporatists controlled by Goldman Sachs betsuni Oct 2018 #202

I just won Hillary Clinton Whataboutism! obamanut2012 Oct 2018 #207

BINGO! betsuni Oct 2018 #208

Not "Yeahbutism"? George II Oct 2018 #307

Who cares about "how many homes and how much money Bill and Hillary have"? George II Oct 2018 #306

These sound like republican talking points... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #216

How so? Republicans love capitalism. betsuni Oct 2018 #218

They are also hypocrites.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #221

Who are "they"? Republicans or Democrats? betsuni Oct 2018 #223

If I was responding this... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #225

Wut? "If I was responding this" betsuni Oct 2018 #226

Now your just wasting time... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #227

"You're" not "your" betsuni Oct 2018 #228

Easy to tell.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #233

LOL betsuni Oct 2018 #235

It's about hypocrisy. Like when a politician labels others with derogatory accusations R B Garr Oct 2018 #297

Shhhh... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #214

"Truth shall not be spoken here." betsuni Oct 2018 #217

Nah.. not everybody thinks BS is all that. Cha Oct 2018 #67

I think the Democrats in any state know what works best in their state. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #76

Cute memes you're pushing there, hits all the usual notes: JHan Oct 2018 #86

Okay how about LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #109

How about this: do you live in South Carolina? JHan Oct 2018 #121

I know that Bernie was twice as popular as Hillary LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #137

Polls do not win Primaries. JHan Oct 2018 #151

sanders lost south Carolina JI7 Oct 2018 #153

BULL.. sorry, you have absolutely no idea of what really happened. Cha Oct 2018 #162

By what measure? ehrnst Oct 2018 #219

Not in the real world Gothmog Oct 2018 #229

No he wasn't. Cha Oct 2018 #355

I do not believe in magic and so I never took sanders seriously Gothmog Oct 2018 #234

It's almost like we're playing bingo! Jamaal510 Oct 2018 #154

right! Haha! JHan Oct 2018 #156

BINGO! Cha Oct 2018 #166

maybe one day we won't have to talk about it all the time because people pretending it isn't a JCanete Oct 2018 #196

do you live in South Carolina? JHan Oct 2018 #197

Strawman. BINGO! (nt) ehrnst Oct 2018 #220

Bingo. shanny Oct 2018 #124

I saw Bernie in Charleston in 2016 and lots of people were happy to see him. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #60

Hillary won the Democratic Party primary there w/over 73%. Sanders came in at 26%. Honeycombe8 Oct 2018 #80

But not just Democrats vote. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #95

This is SOUTH CAROLINA, not Pennsylvania or another swing state. pnwmom Oct 2018 #199

"Sanders is much more popular than any Democrat."? George II Oct 2018 #258

LOL! betsuni Oct 2018 #322

I understand what happened in the primary. aikoaiko Oct 2018 #97

And we lost the state by 14 pints in the GE. So... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2018 #157

May I ask why do you have that GIF of a little girl being tossed to a lake to drown? lunamagica Oct 2018 #193

In the movie scene, this is the dialogue: George II Oct 2018 #327

I know...I've seen it and it's horrific. I just can't think how that violence against a child lunamagica Oct 2018 #333

The issue has been raised several times. As you point out, no reply. George II Oct 2018 #334

That "triggered" one is about as low class as you can get. R B Garr Oct 2018 #336

I don't get that "triggered one" What does it mean? lunamagica Oct 2018 #344

Mostly trolling, as that's the overall theme of all of them. nt R B Garr Oct 2018 #346

Yes, you are correct George and must correct what I said. Violence against ANYONE lunamagica Oct 2018 #342

Every four years, every state in the Union holds a primary or caucus, even the reddest of the red. George II Oct 2018 #286

Used to love him but now his selfishness just pisses me off. He doesn't care if he sinks the Dem. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2018 #63

The one senator that has not changed. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2018 #82

He has changed. He became a multi-millionaire in the last two years. He now owns four homes lunamagica Oct 2018 #192

That's not necessarily something to be proud of. Cha Oct 2018 #357

Sounds like they are planning to blame Bernie if she loses. n/t JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #74

How so? George II Oct 2018 #125

Better if Sanders 'got lost' Botany Oct 2018 #105

It's interesting that he's campaigning for relatively minor candidates in South Carolina and yet.... George II Oct 2018 #118

That is his style. Blue_true Oct 2018 #255

iirc South Carolina has not voted Democratic since Jimmy Carter shanny Oct 2018 #120

It's a close race...so What do you mean? Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #138

they have other elections besides PResidential Races. JI7 Oct 2018 #172

No kidding? shanny Oct 2018 #198

I'm not sure his visit will hurt. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #144

Well, I don't think the SC Dems in the article Cha Oct 2018 #158

They didn't only strongly distance themselves... WeekiWater Oct 2018 #161

.. Cha Oct 2018 #165

no need to take it personally. OBama and Beto are both keeping distance from each other JI7 Oct 2018 #174

I supported him in the primary... don't see anyone better now dembotoz Oct 2018 #203

"if he won the primary" LexVegas Oct 2018 #209

He won my state wasn't even that close dembotoz Oct 2018 #215

He lost overall....and it wasn't even close. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #222

We are not supposed to talk about such things dembotoz Oct 2018 #293

I voted for Sanders in the 16 primary. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #210

I doubt it.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #224

No it's not. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #236

Is there a movie, "Hate Actually"? betsuni Oct 2018 #239

It's not about hate. It's about trust. MrsCoffee Oct 2018 #253

It's curious that many times that he's criticized it is because of "hatred", not policy differences. George II Oct 2018 #274

Point them out... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #280

No response melman Oct 2018 #303

Yeah, they don't wanna go.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #324

It was one of those "you prove to me" a negative, which is way too open-ended..... George II Oct 2018 #348

In this case, the article states that his focus on himself is the problem. R B Garr Oct 2018 #275

Actually, he was invited.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #279

Not by a candidate, which is the measure of "winning" -- when you win an election. R B Garr Oct 2018 #282

He was "invited" by Our Revolution, an organization that he created in August 2016. George II Oct 2018 #285

Exactly. His own organization is inviting him, lol. No Democratic candidates did. R B Garr Oct 2018 #298

Yet I got an email from him this afternoon, along with a bunch of other statements, he said this: George II Oct 2018 #300

Wow, there really is no excuse for that divisiveness R B Garr Oct 2018 #302

Yes, he was invited by HIS organization! You do realize who founded Our Revolution, don't you? George II Oct 2018 #283

That means, essentially, that he invited himself. NurseJackie Oct 2018 #287

sanders invited himself to speak at an event he was in effect hosting Gothmog Oct 2018 #289

You do know that Our Revolution is a group that sanders founded and control Gothmog Oct 2018 #288

We continually hear that he "vigorously", or "energetically", or "heartily" supported.... George II Oct 2018 #292

I think he's... Mike Nelson Oct 2018 #204

We are going to have... disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #213

Maybe he can go for a SOUL FOOD lunch / photo op. That'll help...nt SidDithers Oct 2018 #242

I generally avoid commenting on the Bernie related posts because they generally devolve into dameatball Oct 2018 #262

Yes indeed. Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #273

Sanders is not the only hopeful saidsimplesimon Oct 2018 #276

A Pathetic Shitstorm! ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #284

Small percentage.. disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #291

I don't think Sanders will play well here in SC customerserviceguy Oct 2018 #315

I also think sanders will not play well in Texas or the south Gothmog Oct 2018 #363

The ability to *listen* is vital for a truly effective politician ehrnst Oct 2018 #341

He is divisive and manages to be timely liberal N proud Oct 2018 #351

Exactly so much, liberal N proud. Cha Oct 2018 #356

If Sanders seems "noisier," i.e., is getting more coverage, Hortensis Oct 2018 #408

Great points liberal N proud Oct 2018 #409