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Pope George Ringo II

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31. It's not about him expanding his base.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:36 PM
Nov 2018

It's about motivating what he's still got. Impeachment will do that.

As an aside, you do realise you're not going to get competent politicians involved in pushing it because they know better than to become known as Trump's answer to Marcia Clark, right? Whoever the dumbest or least popular House Democrats are, they'd be the ones who got this job. That's going to make the inevitable failure even uglier. The circle-jerk shitshow of a failed impeachment just keeps getting worse the more I think about it.

Bottom line: Can you name a real benefit (or combination of benefits?) for a failed impeachment which would justify the rallying cry it would be for Trump's base? It's a feel-good for a portion of our own base, probably about offset by the fact that another portion of our base would face-palm. That's about the best I can come up with on the pro- side. On the con- side, I know why impeachment will fail, I know what that will cost us. Can you suggest even one thing which we would gain from a failed impeachment? Make an argument on why a failed impeachment is a good idea? At some point, politics has to be about winning elections and governing. I just don't see any connection between those two things and a failed impeachment. Please, give me one.

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on what specific charge? we dont like him is not a specific charge nt msongs Nov 2018 #1
For asking the Justice Department to prosecute his political ebemies DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #4
Except, according to the story, he asked about doing it, but didn't actually go ahead onenote Nov 2018 #10
The mere asking DOJ to prosecute his enemies is a clear abuse of power. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #14
Again. He's didn't ask DOJ. onenote Nov 2018 #18
This. Adsos Letter Nov 2018 #37
but he doesn't appear to have made a formal request qazplm135 Nov 2018 #34
Asking stupid questions djg21 Nov 2018 #13
He asked his liaison to DOJ. Abuse of Power. dem4decades Nov 2018 #30
DOJ said no. djg21 Nov 2018 #36
My understanding was it was squashed by McGhan, it never went to DOJ. Doesn't matter dem4decades Nov 2018 #38
Maybe it goes to intent. djg21 Nov 2018 #46
Abuse of Power hlthe2b Nov 2018 #9
Only if there's a reasonable chance of conviction in the Senate. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #2
And since there is ZERO chance of conviction in the Senate, it's pointless. n/t elocs Nov 2018 #5
Worse than pointless. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #11
Who gives two fucks about Trump's base? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #12
Well, we could talk about McConnell laughing his ass off if you'd prefer? Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #15
We can slow walk impeachment and he would be still be on trial when he runs for re-election. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #16
Stop. Please. You're making the idea even worse. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #17
We just whipped Trump's base. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #19
If that's how you demonstrate bravery, say hello to Custer and Lord Cardigan. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #22
Trump is at 42.4% approval DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #24
It's not about him expanding his base. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #31
To be clear, I'm fine with making a stand for history's verdict. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #35
I voted No, because the votes aren't in the Senate, so no point going down that road. Indict his OnDoutside Nov 2018 #3
The question was should - not will Generic Brad Nov 2018 #23
He trial balloons dictatorship JonLP24 Nov 2018 #6
No No No. bullet meet feets Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #7
Also voted no because bluestarone Nov 2018 #8
This is a redline for our Democracy. Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #20
If he can lock up Hillary and James Comey he can lock up you and me. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #25
Um, you can prove this, right? brooklynite Nov 2018 #21
He would kill them if he could get away with it katmondoo Nov 2018 #26
I have no doubt he would if as you say he could get away with it. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #27
+1, he takes helpless peoples children from them as policy ... of course he would kill. There's no uponit7771 Nov 2018 #42
tRump should be impeached for a myriad of reasons. shanny Nov 2018 #28
The real question... MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #29
Of course he should. dewsgirl Nov 2018 #32
In my mind it depends on why the order wasn't carried out. RDANGELO Nov 2018 #33
No. But investigate the living shit out of him. Hound that fat bastard all the way to hell. VOX Nov 2018 #39
And then they would have had him lynched in the rotunda of the capitol building Volaris Nov 2018 #45
Oh, there are more than a few who would revel in such death-dealing behavior. VOX Nov 2018 #47
Yes Trump should be impeached standingtall Nov 2018 #40
NO !! Not if that's all he did was "inquire" with a simple question. uponit7771 Nov 2018 #41
Some day he'll be in a position to be prosecuted Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #43
Pffft...the daughterfucker should be impeached for waking up in the White House every morning. Volaris Nov 2018 #44
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