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DirtEdonE

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20. Listen, I have Jewish family and friends

Tue Feb 12, 2019, 03:02 PM

Feb 2019

And the vast majority of them visit Israel regularly and have dual citizenship. If persons with dual citizenship have more influence in Washington than me, I have a problem with that.

I'm an American citizen with nowhere else to go when people with dual citizenship support a foreign government that supports the likes of trump and the gop because they perceive some benefit for themselves while damning my country.

Stop with the reasons you can't take it. I have reasons I can't take it too but I'm presenting information to support my claims instead of calling you a liar.

Israel has a policy on accepting people of the Jewish faith. I'm sure you're aware.

Law of Return
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

Are you really going to be like the right wingers and ask me for a data base of dual citizenship America/Israelis? Oh, you already did.

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Criticizing AIPAC is not anti-Semitic and it's absurd that this even needs to be said. [View all] jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 OP

It's not but.. Callado119 Feb 2019 #1

Cite the 'more than one occasion' spanone Feb 2019 #3

She referenced AIPAC money wellst0nev0ter Feb 2019 #5

But AIPAC IS using money to influence U.S. politics DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #7

How many times does it leftynyc Feb 2019 #12

Come on now DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #15

Saying they're foreign leftynyc Feb 2019 #17

Listen, I have Jewish family and friends DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #20

I very simply don't believe you leftynyc Feb 2019 #26

Then I guess they visit Israel every year as tourists DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #28

The difference being leftynyc Feb 2019 #35

This is exactly the point I'm trying to make DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #41

Removing organizations leftynyc Feb 2019 #43

You keep calling me a liar DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #46

Amen... disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #120

actually.... cab67 Feb 2019 #40

I have a question ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #53

Don't know, but I suspect they can. cab67 Feb 2019 #55

You useless pustule! Just kidding! ;) ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #56

How to Become an Israeli Citizen DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #62

Why not ask your Aunt? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #66

No, if I understand correctly Nonhlanhla Feb 2019 #73

You make an excellent point, watoos Feb 2019 #33

Len Blavatnik? DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #44

My aunt visited Israel twice. I have never met a Jew with dual citizenship. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #76

They might as well be foreign. They lobby for the interest of one and only one country. Blue_true Feb 2019 #85

Sorry, have to call you on that - packman Feb 2019 #24

LOL - so those two leftynyc Feb 2019 #31

Interesting that one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the U.S. is many times igored still_one Feb 2019 #102

This L. Michael Hager? lapucelle Feb 2019 #68

They have a Congressional Club on their website spedtr90 Feb 2019 #37

OMG leftynyc Feb 2019 #42

All sorts of folks "knowledgeable" about dual citizenship, "foreign" influence, lapucelle Feb 2019 #71

AIPAC functions as a lobbying group with the interests of one foreign country front and center. nt Blue_true Feb 2019 #84

what is the goal (mission statement) of AIPAC? Takket Feb 2019 #109

Look at all the hearts you have! lapucelle Feb 2019 #57

Of course it is, it's a lobbying group. Several states have made it a termination offense onit2day Feb 2019 #59

What state has made it a "termination offense" to criticize AIPAC? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #63

Texas Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2019 #86

Where's the part about signing a pledge "not to criticize AIPAC"? lapucelle Feb 2019 #93

Not specifically AIPAC but Israel Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2019 #105

Where's the part of the statute governing the contract that prohibits criticizing Israel? lapucelle Feb 2019 #110

A teacher in either Texas or Oklahoma recently lost his or her job for Blue_true Feb 2019 #87

It was not a teacher; it was a speech pathologist who worked as a private contractor. lapucelle Feb 2019 #92

The principle of punishing Americans for voicing opposition to the actions of a foreign government Blue_true Feb 2019 #107

I'm quite clear on what the statute says and exactly what comprises a boycott. lapucelle Feb 2019 #108

The statue must be changed because it violates the First Amendment. Blue_true Feb 2019 #112

The constitutional issues are complex, and the statute is being challenged. lapucelle Feb 2019 #113

No renewal for the reason that it happened is firing. Blue_true Feb 2019 #125

I'm confident that the courts will take your opinion under advisement. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #126

Academic, business, and cultural boycotts are part of the movement. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #94

For one, this, in 2012: George II Feb 2019 #8

thanks! 👍🏼 spanone Feb 2019 #13

She didn't even do a dog whistle this time. Blue_true Feb 2019 #83

But the whole criticism of any PAC comes down to money, doesn't it? ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #4

Sigh leftynyc Feb 2019 #14

I call my dog my baby DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #16

Is that supposed to mean something? leftynyc Feb 2019 #18

I never admit I'm wrong DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #21

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #27

You need to re-read my post DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #32

I just reread it and stand by leftynyc Feb 2019 #39

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #75

From wiki: ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #19

Yep. Tomato. Tomahto. nt DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #23

Just to be clear I'm for closing down K Street altogether DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #25

I had to log in just to give this post a +1 JonLP24 Feb 2019 #34

THANK YOU! nt DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #36

That you don't see a distinction leftynyc Feb 2019 #49

The point is that it is the same thing ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #52

It's COMPLETELY different leftynyc Feb 2019 #60

The NRA is a PAC? No joke, that is news to me. Blue_true Feb 2019 #90

You are pretty far off base if you think AIPAC garners the most contempt. ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #96

I agree with the poster that you are responding to. Blue_true Feb 2019 #89

Haven't heard back from you on my prior response. ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #48

Gee - so sorry for having a life leftynyc Feb 2019 #50

You're all over this comment thread ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #54

And what does that have leftynyc Feb 2019 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #97

Why aren't they the American Public Affairs Committee. Blue_true Feb 2019 #88

They call themselves "America's pro Israel Lobby" Adrahil Feb 2019 #121

Who told you that you can't criticize the PAC in question? Do you have a quote or a link? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #64

Leftynyc made it clear ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #95

All PACs buy politicians? lapucelle Feb 2019 #103

This has been covered here. ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #104

So AIPAC is not a PAC and it doesn't buy politicians. lapucelle Feb 2019 #106

I do not know what AIPA is ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #115

Your post agreed with the claim that AIPAC "buys politicians". lapucelle Feb 2019 #117

Where has it been "covered" that "all PACS buy politicians"? lapucelle Feb 2019 #111

Holy f-ing s**t, do you even know what a PAC does? ExciteBike66 Feb 2019 #114

You mean PACS like Democracy for America, Justice Democrats, and Democratic Socialists of America? lapucelle Feb 2019 #118

What dog whistles have she used? Blue_true Feb 2019 #81

AIPAC looks like an agent of the Republican party to me. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #2

Remember when DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #10

I remember ck4829 Feb 2019 #99

How so? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #6

Don't play obtuse. You know why. bitterross Feb 2019 #9

+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #11

Absolutely agree. Thank you. zentrum Feb 2019 #22

Get ALL the lobbyists out of Washington DC DirtEdonE Feb 2019 #29

As an outsider, a non-Jew, it seems to me that... TryLogic Feb 2019 #30

May I have examples of Jews being too quick to take offense? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #65

I've asked this question of others leftynyc Feb 2019 #70

I'm not Jewish, but grew up in a Jewish culture (one of very few non-Jews in our neighborhood).... George II Feb 2019 #72

I mean, it's not like Jews have any historical reason for concern theboss Feb 2019 #74

How many other organizations are there like AIPAC? MicaelS Feb 2019 #38

Turkish Americans, Greek Americans, Armenian Americans. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #77

I'm also pissed that the Democratic party isn't supporting any Israeli left-wing opposition parties. Crowman2009 Feb 2019 #45

We should kick lobbyists out of washington, no exceptions, and not allow corporation Chickensoup Feb 2019 #47

As an atheist, I sick religions' delusions of grandeur doctorzuma Feb 2019 #51

When I read what she said I pretty much thought the same thing. Vinca Feb 2019 #58

I agree. I don't think criticizing aipac is anti-Semtic. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #69

Yep ck4829 Feb 2019 #98

From J Street Gothmog Feb 2019 #78

I never heard of J Street. Blue_true Feb 2019 #91

Excellent info ck4829 Feb 2019 #100

Agreed. There's a huge difference... backscatter712 Feb 2019 #79

This thread has been eye opening and not in a good way. grossproffit Feb 2019 #80

Wow. DU sure has changed. Ten years ago this thread would have been locked. McCamy Taylor Feb 2019 #82

I guess we are making progress... nt HopeAgain Feb 2019 #101

Indeed. But if one only criticized a Jewish lobby while ignoring other richer, more corrosive pampango Feb 2019 #116

I don't believe anybody has suggested criticizing AIPAC or Israel is inherently anti-semitic. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #119

Not so sure. Adrahil Feb 2019 #122

That is silly. I am very critical of the current Israeli government. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #123

Totally agree. Thanks! NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #124