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Straw Man

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38. As I said before ...

Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:28 PM

Sep 2019

Last edited Sat Sep 14, 2019, 04:59 PM - Edit history (1)

... reductio ad absurdum.

You're the one who wants to treat guns like cars, and then you proceed to explain why that is impossible. Is that you call "good faith"?

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When a 2A advocate compares guns to autos, ask about the Corvair [View all] bigbrother05 Sep 2019 OP

It's a ridiculous analogy in the first place. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #1

The car/gun analogy literally drives me (pun intended) up the wall Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #3

Great rebuttal to the cars kill more . . . rogue emissary Sep 2019 #2

And we already do that with fireams. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #14

Then there should be no problem with what Beto, Harris Swalwell and other have proposed. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #15

We ban, regulate and restrict the individuals who can drive cars for cause. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #16

People have all sorts of items confiscated if they are deemed unsafe. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #36

Like what? Let's talk about the examples you're thinking about. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #44

Go to an airport with any item that's sharp. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #48

Ok, but that occurs in a secure area -- not every area of life. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #49

Beto's policy propot the gun is the cause. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #67

Beto is just plain wrong about all of that. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #69

The government has never threatened to take a entire series of cars away from owners Polybius Sep 2019 #63

They've recalled cars determined dangerous or defective. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #66

So, we can register gunz like cars - and make stupid gun nutz get a license too? jpak Sep 2019 #29

Yes we could. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #43

Unless you make your own gunz - they would have to be possessed off your property jpak Sep 2019 #46

That is untrue about the Corvair DVRacer Sep 2019 #4

Pony cars didn't kill the VW, but GM wanted to avoid the grief bigbrother05 Sep 2019 #8

And, as I remember, all you had to do was install a stabilizer bar in the back... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #9

Yup gotta remember slow in fast out DVRacer Sep 2019 #11

GM changed the suspension after the first few years. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2019 #37

Tell that to Ernie Kovacs. Doc_Technical Sep 2019 #24

When Americans spent as much time with their guns as they spend with their cars, struggle4progress Sep 2019 #5

Excellent point. Paladin Sep 2019 #23

Everything that can create a potential harm or death to citizens are regulated Yavin4 Sep 2019 #6

I nominate the Ford Pinto TruckFump Sep 2019 #7

The industry can't fix the person connected to the trigger finger. nt Hotler Sep 2019 #10

Um... Straw Man Sep 2019 #12

Cars make better analogies FOR regulating guns than against coti Sep 2019 #13

I wish we could regulate guns LIKE cars wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #17

Me too. Straw Man Sep 2019 #18

Can you conceal/carry cars? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #20

But you can "open carry" cars anywhere. Straw Man Sep 2019 #31

You can't physically carry cars wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #33

As I said before ... Straw Man Sep 2019 #38

So by your logic ... Straw Man Sep 2019 #40

Soo... different things get regulated differently then? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #52

Um ... do you remember how you started this sub-thread? Straw Man Sep 2019 #55

I meant to say "to the same extent as cars" wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #58

Here we go 'round the mulberry bush. Straw Man Sep 2019 #59

Actually, that's not a bad idea wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #61

Make up your mind: Should gun licensing be done at the state level, or the federal level? Straw Man Sep 2019 #62

Are drivers' licenses offered at the state or federal level? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #65

State level. Recognized nationally. Straw Man Sep 2019 #68

It's easier to NOT conceal carry a gun wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #70

I disagree wholeheartedly. Straw Man Sep 2019 #71

Another problem is there is more licensing and testing than some cases guns JonLP24 Sep 2019 #19

Also tell the 2A folks who compare cars to guns: Martin Eden Sep 2019 #21

In many states... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2019 #22

Except for the insurance ... Straw Man Sep 2019 #41

Universal across all states Martin Eden Sep 2019 #50

And then we can have 50-state reciprocity for concealed carry? Straw Man Sep 2019 #56

I didn't say that. Martin Eden Sep 2019 #57

We're talking about the cars/guns analogy. Straw Man Sep 2019 #60

When a car kills someone, it's not because it's doing what it's designed to do. Iggo Sep 2019 #25

Also, they run from that comparison when it comes to registration and insurance. Iggo Sep 2019 #26

A car is desgined for transport. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #27

A car *accident* is just that - a mass murder is a deliberate act jpak Sep 2019 #28

Ralph has a credibility problem randr Sep 2019 #30

Allow me to nitpick. Straw Man Sep 2019 #39

My memory does not serve me well randr Sep 2019 #42

Could it have been the Mustang? Straw Man Sep 2019 #45

May very well have been randr Sep 2019 #47

You're citing fake news. pintobean Sep 2019 #32

3 Ideas many young people do not know: Stuart G Sep 2019 #34

Cars have many different functions. Weapons only have one. Initech Sep 2019 #35

Target shooting? Skeet shooting? Thinning overpopulation of deer? MichMan Sep 2019 #51

They're for killing tasty animals and keeping the king of England out of your face! Initech Sep 2019 #54

They don't design cars to kill as many people as possible. Crunchy Frog Sep 2019 #53

Corvairs didn't kill. Corsair DEALERS killed jmowreader Sep 2019 #64