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quakerboy

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102. I dunno.. for all its current brokenness we still have a government

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 04:12 AM

Jan 2020

I think we are all pretty aware that Trump is already personally indebted and serving Putin's interests.

So.. if thats the criteria.. our Government is already gone.

But.. Personal life =/ name based financial house of cards.

If Trump had divested, or put it all in blind trust, It wouldn't be an issue, as no one would know what they needed to go after to harm his finances.

Plus... Even if they destroy every cent of whatever assets he had on entering the presidency... He has a secure exit. Either he leaves office with a more generous pension than he deserves, and definitely a reasonable amount for any person to live on, plus 10 years of secret service protection... Or he has free long term room and board at taxpayer expense as the various trials resolve. Either way he is set for life in a fashion more generous than he actually deserves.

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Trump Made His First Real Enemy and It's Going to Hurt Him Financially Like He's Never Seen Before [View all] tecelote Jan 2020 OP

That would be awesome and fitting. yardwork Jan 2020 #1

Iran would win the war without a bullet shot. tecelote Jan 2020 #3

And no one (of any consequence) will condemn their (Iran's) actions. alwaysinasnit Jan 2020 #14

Thought oligarchs owned most of them nt benld74 Jan 2020 #2

His Lardship doesn't own many of them any more; he just licenses his name. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #65

That name has been scrubbed off of several buildings in the past 3 years leftieNanner Jan 2020 #69

They'll be even harder to sell if people think the Iranians might blow them up. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #72

Oh they will! leftieNanner Jan 2020 #75

The Trump Foundation is kaput so it's up to the RNC to purchase some of his condos now. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #84

He's going to wish he'd divested everything before he took office. tanyev Jan 2020 #4

Ironic, isn't it? tecelote Jan 2020 #6

Yup too bad scarytomcat Jan 2020 #117

Where is Elliot Alderson and Mr. Robot when you need them? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #5

Fsociety to the rescue! Dem2theMax Jan 2020 #34

Me too. Loved it and Rami too. ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2020 #40

That would be the presidents holdings, I doubt that we will allow terrorist states to go after our braddy Jan 2020 #7

They don't have to go after the president's lives and family. tecelote Jan 2020 #8

By showing our appreciation? Disaffected Jan 2020 #9

? tecelote Jan 2020 #10

If we avert war but Trump loses his empire, then yes. I applaud that. tecelote Jan 2020 #12

That would be the ideal deal!! riversedge Jan 2020 #19

That would be the greatest deal ever in the history Captain Zero Jan 2020 #88

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2020 #56

Yup, Disaffected Jan 2020 #83

... dewsgirl Jan 2020 #53

We have to figure out a way if we ever need to, our leaders, senators, judges, border patrol, mayors braddy Jan 2020 #13

Easy solution tecelote Jan 2020 #20

How is that an easy solution, it isn't just war policy that terrorist nations may want to control by braddy Jan 2020 #25

Absolutely. But that is in a perfect world. tecelote Jan 2020 #30

Let foreign nations, or anyone go after our presidents personal lives and that ends our government. braddy Jan 2020 #32

What's your solution? tecelote Jan 2020 #37

First, the problem hasn't actually arisen yet, but if it ever does, then we do whatever it takes to braddy Jan 2020 #44

Haven't they already done that? tecelote Jan 2020 #50

I'm not worried about all this verbal blustering that is being thrown around, none of it is concrete braddy Jan 2020 #61

The verbal blustering is what will scare Trump's lessees. tecelote Jan 2020 #67

Read my posts. braddy Jan 2020 #70

Also, the Emoluments Clause. tecelote Jan 2020 #57

Get used to a global economy and billionaires being presidents, both will become common, this isn't braddy Jan 2020 #66

Unless we vote against it. tecelote Jan 2020 #71

Embrace the oligarchy? Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #95

PREACH Crunchy Frog I don't what to say.... The_REAL_Ecumenist Jan 2020 #103

That may be true, but Trump Dan Jan 2020 #91

I dunno.. for all its current brokenness we still have a government quakerboy Jan 2020 #102

Are we talking about a president who attacks private individuals on an almost daily basis. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #108

This about a thousand times. GoneOffShore Jan 2020 #114

Many others view us as a terrorist nation. After all, we just assassinated... brush Jan 2020 #45

I'm an American, and the man we just killed was the world's leading terrorist, with his terrorist braddy Jan 2020 #51

Yet we are invaders and occupiers. It's about perspective. brush Jan 2020 #77

Why did the Ayatollas take over?... druidity33 Jan 2020 #119

The Ayatollahs just killed about 1500 of their own people including 400 women and arrested 1000s braddy Jan 2020 #121

and... druidity33 Jan 2020 #122

"Iran's Foreign Minister Defends Execution of Gays" braddy Jan 2020 #123

maybe you don't understand what i'm saying... druidity33 Jan 2020 #129

That is an interesting response to that article on Iran executes gays. braddy Jan 2020 #130

If trump lied about an imminent threat , which has already been stated by Pentagon officials duforsure Jan 2020 #105

He also used it as an excuse to kill someone who "wasn't nice to him". louis-t Jan 2020 #111

Other presidents distanced themselves from their fortunes Leith Jan 2020 #64

It's easier if they aren't multinational corrupt "billionaires" ToxMarz Jan 2020 #24

You let foreign powers go after our presidents personally, and that is it for the presidency. braddy Jan 2020 #28

The best protection against coming after political figures physically... Salviati Jan 2020 #55

As someone whose child is about to be sent into that dewsgirl Jan 2020 #62

What unit is your child with? braddy Jan 2020 #90

Probably shouldn't ask that question in a public forum... Dan Jan 2020 #92

There is no reason not to, all of our movements of all branches of the services are being published braddy Jan 2020 #120

Jesus Christ.... Dan Jan 2020 #131

We let a foreign power install a President Kaiserguy Jan 2020 #89

No one is attacking him or his family personally. Of course we would respond to that. AllyCat Jan 2020 #106

Not if they aren't corrupt billionaires who aren't divested from their financial interests. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #126

He was supposed to divest himself like all previous Presidents have FakeNoose Jan 2020 #68

Pretty soon a Motel 6 room will be more expensive. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2020 #11

But isn't that civilian targets? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #15

Financial loss versus civilian deaths. tecelote Jan 2020 #16

Just by saying it out loud, who is going to stay at Trump hotels? Money dries up. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #31

Gotchya.....hope it does chill 'attendance'. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #39

Even if I liked Trump, I would not be anywhere near his properties. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #42

+1 Kurt V. Jan 2020 #33

Trump brought this on himself by running for this office and not.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #17

He'll just claim he sacrificed his "fortune" for America. Hoyt Jan 2020 #18

Yup. Always the victim. tecelote Jan 2020 #22

I can't imagine Trump accepting being broke, he can say he's sacrificed and never does uponit7771 Jan 2020 #27

Trump will file an insurance claim like he always does. blm Jan 2020 #21

And overstate the value by a factor of three, like he always does. nt eppur_se_muova Jan 2020 #52

Most insurance doesn't cover acts of war. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #85

He would inflate the value of his property HeiressofBickworth Jan 2020 #116

If my business was located in one of his properties I'd be suing him for everything I could get. BluesRunTheGame Jan 2020 #23

+1, His brand ...ALONE... will take a huge hit now. Can you imagine just a cheap drone blowing up by uponit7771 Jan 2020 #26

The bulk of his net worth is his brand TexasBushwhacker Jan 2020 #59

Yes, they won before they even started. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #29

1. People don't believe Iran. 2. Trumpanzees say "See how he is sacrificing himself for his country" Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2020 #35

i worry about ppl at these *targets* . i could give a fuck about his net worth. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #36

Yes, it's sad that people who live in Trump's properties suffer. tecelote Jan 2020 #38

Americans or anyone else Kurt V. Jan 2020 #78

There are some seriously, sarisataka Jan 2020 #41

Right Kurt V. Jan 2020 #81

Golf Courses are also part of his "Empire" n/t Rollerman Jan 2020 #43

They should send small drones and bomb the golf courses lunatica Jan 2020 #48

No need to drop bombs Rollerman Jan 2020 #54

Great point! lunatica Jan 2020 #58

The could always send in someone to tunnel underneath Generic Brad Jan 2020 #82

Like this? muntrv Jan 2020 #80

His buildings will be abandoned ghost towns in no time lunatica Jan 2020 #46

I sure as hell wouldn't stay in any of his hotels. Of course I never would have doc03 Jan 2020 #47

Ah. I hoped the Iranians would realize that Trump is their true enemy, not America. Kablooie Jan 2020 #49

From a psychology viewpoint Beringia Jan 2020 #60

Yup. Even McDonalds won't be above suspicion. lunatica Jan 2020 #63

tRump would love to get rid of his money pits walking away with a big fat insurance check yaesu Jan 2020 #73

From my favorite movie "Trading Places" ... OMGWTF Jan 2020 #74

Americans should avoid all Trump properties DesertRat Jan 2020 #76

I'm OK Wawannabe Jan 2020 #113

When it comes to hurting this asshole, causing extreme pain and hardship, warmfeet Jan 2020 #79

It would be wonderful if this did not include violent acts. gordianot Jan 2020 #86

Is this "KARMA"? Hulk Jan 2020 #87

Iran if you're listening... SayItLoud Jan 2020 #93

All patriotic republicans Richard D Jan 2020 #94

Only tRumpy BedBugs will survive Ziggysmom Jan 2020 #96

The One Good Thing About This Whole Mess, the One Silver Lining panfluteman Jan 2020 #97

These are Persians, after all. ChazInAz Jan 2020 #98

You are correct KentuckyWoman Jan 2020 #100

A little Bible Belt learned lesson for Trump: Jamastiene Jan 2020 #99

I have to admit, I sure would prefer Iran to take it's revenge against the person who caused napi21 Jan 2020 #101

I wouldn't be surprised if Iran didn't also target duforsure Jan 2020 #104

Yes, but disndat Jan 2020 #107

That money isn't free. smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #125

I had heard Iran was pulling Russianesque style US election tampering Chakaconcarne Jan 2020 #109

All they have to do is zentrum Jan 2020 #110

I think the NRA mgardener Jan 2020 #112

I'm not sure that puts us the American people in a good position. Jillgirl Jan 2020 #115

We can only hope. Nitram Jan 2020 #118

I wonder if the Trump Org has insurance. I can't believe they wouldn't. Calista241 Jan 2020 #124

Interesting thought...i like it Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #127

OK folks, since no one mentioned it, guess which banks will offer buyers in ANY Trump property... machoneman Jan 2020 #128