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MineralMan

(149,500 posts)
11. Thanks. MSNBC is OK, but doesn't reach enough of an audience.
Fri Feb 7, 2020, 12:55 PM
Feb 2020

Besides, we have people who constantly grouse about MSNBC, too, for allowing some more conservative voices to participate in its pundit discussion programming. You can't simply ignore the other side and call yourself unbiased.

But, only a limited number of people watch MSNBC, really, especially compared to the broadcast network news programming. There is a lot of scorn for those broadcast networks, but they have a hugely larger audience than any cable network, especially when you combine them into a single news audience.

Fox News Network isn't actually news at all. It's all biased programming. It has its audience, that eats up everything it sees there. That audience will never watch an unbiased news outlet. It always seeks confirmation of its own opinion. Really, we all do that to some degree or another.

So, we have MSNBC to watch, but it rarely actually does any straight news reporting. For that, we have only the broadcast news on the three alphabet networks. I exclude Fox, although its local affiliate stations don't do too badly on local news coverage. Still, many of us take great price in never watching network news. Why that is, I don't know.

We also have newspapers, many of which generally report the news fairly well. If you ignore the opinion and editorial pages, you can find out what's going on, both locally and nationally. Good newspapers even try to present both sides even on their opinion pages.

A lot of people confuse opinion with news. That has gotten worse because of the 24/7 news cycle on cable networks. Most of what MSNBC and Fox News Network present is opinion, rather than news. The two are very much unlike each other, but both are primarily sources of opinion, not news.

We see a lot of news stories on DU, but we also see even more opinion pieces posted here. Politico is not news. The Hill is not news. almost everything posted here from many sources is opinion, slanted to the left to some degree or another.

Raw news is getting harder and harder to find. That's what interests me. I'm perfectly capable of coming up with my own opinion about that news. I don't need any help there.

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Of course they are. kacekwl Feb 2020 #1
You didn't read the whole post, did you? MineralMan Feb 2020 #2
Yes I did. I just answered your question. kacekwl Feb 2020 #54
There you go, talking sense again. n/t Mister Ed Feb 2020 #3
I try to, anyway. MineralMan Feb 2020 #4
Not really. Stupid and/or racist voters/viewers are the problem. trump's exposure should turn Hoyt Feb 2020 #5
FOX and AM Right Wing Radio Are a Pestilence! MineralMan Feb 2020 #6
I think it is because liberals tend to listen to music on the radio. Walleye Feb 2020 #8
You know, MM, you are absolutely right. Skidmore Feb 2020 #7
Thanks. MSNBC is OK, but doesn't reach enough of an audience. MineralMan Feb 2020 #11
Excellent post. hear hear!! jmg257 Feb 2020 #9
Yes, we KNOW many are corrupt and biased, AP, NYT, CNN, MSNBC. Hortensis Feb 2020 #10
You mean like when they talk like acquittal erases Impeachment? yeah. pwb Feb 2020 #12
Every President is news. Everything the President does is news. MineralMan Feb 2020 #13
That is just the way Trump wants it? Control. pwb Feb 2020 #15
It is not news you wish to consume. However, it is still news. MineralMan Feb 2020 #17
It use to be important to listen to Presidents. pwb Feb 2020 #24
I think the media is not the media. I do not believe freedom of the press, means conglomerate Johonny Feb 2020 #14
Here's the thing, though. You can start your own media outlet by MineralMan Feb 2020 #16
Not only are they bought and paid for Boomerproud Feb 2020 #18
No, journalism is not gone. MineralMan Feb 2020 #20
Your last Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #19
Thanks. Iowa was news because it was SNAFU FUBAR. MineralMan Feb 2020 #21
Major FUBAR. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #23
Trolls majorly clogged the phone lines . apcalc Feb 2020 #28
All boils down to one person. Wellstone ruled Feb 2020 #31
As of of 2019, 90% of the United States's media is controlled by five media conglomerates. VOX Feb 2020 #22
The media is corporate-owned Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #25
Pretty much everything commercial is corporate owned. MineralMan Feb 2020 #27
Right. No news there. Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2020 #49
Biased for sure. Gawd knows ya gotta be a white man to get good press. apcalc Feb 2020 #26
Media in general thrives on making news sound sensational at140 Feb 2020 #29
Yes, of course. MineralMan Feb 2020 #32
Whatever it takes to keep their ratings up njhoneybadger Feb 2020 #30
Great post, I love some sanity now and then. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #33
msm behaves the way they do bc of government policy. They're been deregulated like Kurt V. Feb 2020 #35
What's wrong with greatly expanding PBS and npr? Mosby Feb 2020 #36
You are aware, of course that corporate sponsorship keeps those alive, right. MineralMan Feb 2020 #39
So change it. Take away the corporate "gifts". Mosby Feb 2020 #41
How would you do that? MineralMan Feb 2020 #45
It's the influence that is the problem. treestar Feb 2020 #37
But, see, Trump doesn't really have any primary challengers. MineralMan Feb 2020 #42
Thanks for the series of well written articles on media, MM. Interesting reads and again, to the... SWBTATTReg Feb 2020 #38
Thank you! MineralMan Feb 2020 #43
I am surprised this has not been flagged. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #40
I'd be surprised if it was. MineralMan Feb 2020 #44
It would have been in the Primaries forum! and the jury would have a dozen alerts by now, lol Baclava Feb 2020 #52
I try to stay out of that place. Caliman73 Feb 2020 #55
Bring your best walking on eggshells shoes! U be like, 'hey, ur guy is wearing scuffed shoes' Alert! Baclava Feb 2020 #56
My wife and I quit television more than ten years ago. I read all my news. hunter Feb 2020 #46
Lazy superpatriotman Feb 2020 #47
Well, that's true, at least in part. MineralMan Feb 2020 #48
n1 GeorgeGist Feb 2020 #50
it's been consistent for years... stillcool Feb 2020 #51
The media is us. cachukis Feb 2020 #53
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