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SunSeeker

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34. I trust Cuomo's more than China, but even NY's numbers are underreported.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 07:52 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Sun Apr 12, 2020, 08:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Cuomo would be the first to admit that. As I point out in the OP, way more New Yorkers are dying in their homes than normal and they aren't being tested. In New York City, somewhere around 20-25 people die at home on a typical day. But according to City Council Member Mark Levine, who chairs the health committee, between 200 and 215 are dying at home every day at present. As Levine wrote on Twitter, only those “who are known to have a positive coronavirus test have the disease listed as the official cause on their death certificate.” Gothamist reports that the city Medical Examiner’s office “is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as ‘probable.’” And those “probable” COVID-19 deaths aren’t included in the tallies. This is not a problem that’s unique to New York. BuzzFeed News reported that “medical professionals around the US [say] that the official numbers of people who have died of COVID-19 are not consistent with the number of deaths they’re seeing on the front lines.” https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/ten-times-as-many-new-yorkers-are-dying-in-their-homes-than-normal-and-they-arent-being-tested-for-covid-19/

When it comes to states like Florida and Texas, I trust their numbers less than Cuomo's.

The point is, everyone's numbers are underreported to some degree, some more than others. But the numbers given by international organizations are all we have to go by when comparing countries, so that is what we use. I am specifically using a source you cited for those numbers.

You still think we're "way down the list"?



Thank you for this realty check, SunSeeker.. Cha Apr 2020 #1
Reality is the enemy of right wing bullshit! SunSeeker Apr 2020 #3
Yes it is and it will bring them down. Cha Apr 2020 #9
A couple of things come immediately to mind. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #2
By population, we are not even close to China and India, yet they have lower rates. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #6
How confident can we be in their numbers? PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #7
How confident are you in our numbers? SunSeeker Apr 2020 #13
No, I am not saying it is all fake news. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #15
So you trust China's numbers over Cuomo's? former9thward Apr 2020 #24
I trust Cuomo's more than China, but even NY's numbers are underreported. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #34
We are way down the list. former9thward Apr 2020 #42
So now that it is obvious the data doesn't support your assertion... SunSeeker Apr 2020 #43
The point is not to trust China's numbers jimfields33 Apr 2020 #26
The point is, even if you totally disregard China's numbers, Trump's response has been awful. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #35
I'm Confident In Our Numbers ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #33
I live in CA and love Newsom. But I know our numbers are underreported. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #36
100 % of them dont have Trump as president. nt. drray23 Apr 2020 #4
They actually care for their people and hulmanity. Cha Apr 2020 #10
I check out the charts and graphs at this link several times a day BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #5
A word of caution DFW Apr 2020 #8
Oh please. Germany is testing twice more per capita than the US. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #11
Here in Germany, we are not impressed DFW Apr 2020 #16
Everything is relative. You have universal health coverage. We don't. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #17
Where in the world did you hear that we had universal health coverage here? DFW Apr 2020 #19
Germany does have univsersal multi-payer coverage. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #20
Do you live there? Somebody from Germany gives a on the ground observation jimfields33 Apr 2020 #27
I go by documented evidence. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #37
But no other countries have trump duforsure Apr 2020 #12
Trump is a cancer on the world. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #14
Thanks for posting! BlueMTexpat Apr 2020 #18
Love it! SunSeeker Apr 2020 #21
I've noticed customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #22
Thousands of dead Americans because of Trump's corruption will ALWAYS look bleak. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #32
All I can say is customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #39
This isn't about comparing Trump to Hillary. It's about comparing Trump to South Korea. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #41
Another way to look at this KatyMan Apr 2020 #23
Exactly jimfields33 Apr 2020 #28
What is that clappy "truth"? That we're the best of the 12 worst of 195 countries? SunSeeker Apr 2020 #31
Any way you look at it, 94% of the world's countries have lower deaths per 1 million. nt SunSeeker Apr 2020 #30
1) It is not only right wing yacking about "per capitia" even on DU its has been pointed out. jmg257 Apr 2020 #25
And 99.49 percent of countries Turbineguy Apr 2020 #29
The US is actually 14th, that link left off San Marino and Andorra (micro states, but your OP Celerity Apr 2020 #38
What's so sad is so many countries relied on us to see what to do, and Trump completely botched it. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #40
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