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JHB

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23. Any 2nd CC for the foreseeable future would quickly get highjacked by RWers
Sun Jun 7, 2020, 10:02 AM
Jun 2020

Last edited Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:22 AM - Edit history (1)

This is one of the items the Koch brothers, like-minded ideologues, and their corporate lobbyist allies have been quietly pushing for years. They would like nothing better than to rewrite the constitution to lock in their view of the way things ought to be and make reform impossible.

It would be a second Confederate Constitution, which did the same thing.

Don't think for a minute they don't have draft proposals that were written up years ago -- part contingency plan, part political wish list -- that can be dusted off and updated pretty damn quick.

Through money and connections they have the influence to be a huge or even dominant influence on a 2nd CC. No other group has anything like this kind of off-the-shelf game plan.

So what do we have to lose? Everything.

What have we got to lose? A lot. yardwork Jun 2020 #1
What if, "they're not invited"? kentuck Jun 2020 #3
What? yardwork Jun 2020 #5
Then it has no legitimacy Renew Deal Jun 2020 #9
Then you have just started a civil war. hack89 Jun 2020 #13
That's an excellent point. kentuck Jun 2020 #19
It really doesn't work that way. nt Codeine Jun 2020 #32
No, thanks. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #2
Only for the hard RWers who plan to overthrow this one. Hortensis Jun 2020 #4
No. Squinch Jun 2020 #6
no quaker bill Jun 2020 #7
Negative Drum Jun 2020 #8
No! dwilso40641 Jun 2020 #10
No StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #11
Other than the electoral college and equal rights the Constitution is ok. Marcuse Jun 2020 #12
Sure, why not? dumbcat Jun 2020 #14
NO! irisblue Jun 2020 #15
Nope. RW has been pushing for this for years and has been closer than many realize. dameatball Jun 2020 #16
No! edhopper Jun 2020 #17
Absolutely not! The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #18
I guess that settles that! kentuck Jun 2020 #20
Nope! MineralMan Jun 2020 #21
The path we are on will eventually MyNameGoesHere Jun 2020 #22
Any 2nd CC for the foreseeable future would quickly get highjacked by RWers JHB Jun 2020 #23
You are so right Ferryboat Jun 2020 #42
No thanks struggle4progress Jun 2020 #24
No Chainfire Jun 2020 #25
No way! sinkingfeeling Jun 2020 #26
The Koch Brothers want one and I'm sure they would spend lots of money encouraging folks jalan48 Jun 2020 #27
No mrsv Jun 2020 #28
Not until we are less divided. I think we might come out worse nowadays, unfortunately. Hoyt Jun 2020 #29
No. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jun 2020 #30
NO. Some RWers want one because they believe they'd control it. highplainsdem Jun 2020 #31
Put me in the "no" column. Firestorm49 Jun 2020 #33
This is how The Handmaid's Tale becomes reality. PTWB Jun 2020 #34
Absolutely NOT! LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #35
No DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #36
Only if you want a orderly secession amendment added to it. roamer65 Jun 2020 #37
No we don't need a Second Constitutional Convention. crickets Jun 2020 #38
The one we have is fine if applied with common sense, something ooky Jun 2020 #39
No, terrible idea. Initech Jun 2020 #40
I guess we are to assume we are in no danger of losing the present Constitution? kentuck Jun 2020 #41
I think it would take a war or two to get to that point. Initech Jun 2020 #43
Absolutely not. The right wing would fuck it all up. nt Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #44
Absolutely not...It would take... VarryOn Jun 2020 #45
If we did, it would be our THIRD Constitutional Convention. Laelth Jun 2020 #46
Yes, there was the Continental Congress. kentuck Jun 2020 #47
NO! That is a far-right plan promoted (iirc) by the Kochs & their ilk. Maybe later. Much later. Hekate Jun 2020 #48
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