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Wounded Bear

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7. The Senate would be OK without the fillibuster, which doesn't need an Amendment...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jul 2020

That is in Senate rules and is not in the Constitution.

Historically, the fillibuster was rare in the first 100-150 years or so. Looking at pre-Civil War politics, the fear from the South was that the Northern anti-slavery faction would gain a majority in the Senate. Not a fillibuster proof majority, just a bare majority. That's why in the first half of the 19th Century states tended to be admitted in pairs, one free, one slave.

In the modern era, the fillibuster has been used more and more often, until now nothing gets done in the Senate without a super majority, which is very undemocratic.

As to the EC, I don't argue that dumping it is a good idea, it really isn't feasible without a Constitutional Convention. Seems unlikely.

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K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #1
Thanks. I've been ruminating on this concept for a while... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #2
(Oops, 1930's.) Very well said!!!!!! We are going through the same crap yet again. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #6
We need at least 38 blue states to amend the Constitution. Quemado Jul 2020 #3
The Senate would be OK without the fillibuster, which doesn't need an Amendment... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #7
Absolutely the Electoral College needs to go. It is an obsolete and stupid process to have in RKP5637 Jul 2020 #8
Just need a majority to make Puerto Rico and DC states-- dawg day Jul 2020 #15
Wonder if we'll see City States in the future. Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #4
Regionalism is more likely, with groups of states banding together... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #10
The country can no longer have some rural areas making decisions that are not good for RKP5637 Jul 2020 #11
I beg to differ... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #5
Take it how you like. I'm talking about political power here, not individuals... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #9
The OP spoke about "rubes in the hinterland". Mariana Jul 2020 #13
This is essentially what Mary Trump said cilla4progress Jul 2020 #12
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2020 #14
One problem is that in states with half-rural half-urban pops dawg day Jul 2020 #16
Yes, that is happening all over the nation...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #17
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