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fishwax

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32. well, that was a slightly different issue, and doesn't really contradict what he's saying here
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:40 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Fri Aug 14, 2020, 01:36 AM - Edit history (1)

The issue with Cruz was that he wasn't born on American soil. But this was actually a non-issue because he was still a natural born citizen based on blood, which is what Eastman is arguing in the article from 2016.

The non-issue with Harris is that she was born in Oakland but to non-citizens. It's a non issue, because she was born on U.S. soil and her parents weren't invaders, or diplomats, or alien enemies. (Those are the exceptions to Jus Soli citizenship that the Supreme Court offered in U.S. vs. Wong Kim Ark.) But Eastman is trying to claim that in addition to those exceptions the court also excluded anyone whose parents weren't permanently living in the country. The problem is, the court didn't actually say that. WRT Harris, Eastman is wrong. But that won't stop the trump humpers from trumpeting the argument long and loud, I'm sure. There will be investigations into the residency status of both of her parents.

We need ambulance chasers, too. The real problem is Newsweek gives them a voice. RainCaster Aug 2020 #1
This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #3
"Kamala Devi Harris was born on October 20, 1964, in Oakland, California. struggle4progress Aug 2020 #2
Donald Harris was born in Jamaica not Maryland Justice Aug 2020 #6
Dunno. But it doesn't matter. struggle4progress Aug 2020 #11
I agree. But someone is playing with Wiki page Justice Aug 2020 #16
Illinois Department of Economics pager says he's a naturalized US citizen struggle4progress Aug 2020 #20
He became naturalized after Kamela's birth. Justice Aug 2020 #21
Again, doesn't matter struggle4progress Aug 2020 #27
Newsweek's opinion editor Josh Hammer is a far right nutjob - this was entirely on purpose muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #28
Getting ripped to shreds in the comment section. n/t Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #33
Incorrect davekriss Aug 2020 #14
No. Check it again. Was changed to Jamaica Justice Aug 2020 #17
You are correct davekriss Aug 2020 #19
It changed when I typed my response. I edited Justice Aug 2020 #22
After the Ted Cruz, John McCain and Obama non-issues, why do they even try this? brush Aug 2020 #4
not everyone can go to 'top tier' law schools RT Atlanta Aug 2020 #5
Agreed. Not about law school. Eastman failed Justice Aug 2020 #7
I agree, the problem is squarely on the professor himself. Claustrum Aug 2020 #8
Lots of great lawyers from 3rd and 4th tier schools. Justice Aug 2020 #18
That's a lot of my experience as well RT Atlanta Aug 2020 #26
+1. Yale also gave us Kavanaugh, Alito, Thomas, Dershowitz, et al dalton99a Aug 2020 #23
Some go to Liberty University law school. That would be 4th rate. madinmaryland Aug 2020 #35
His argument rests on the "jursidiction" claim. Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #9
Interesting detail in that last sentence - thanks! nt crickets Aug 2020 #31
US v. Wong Kim Ark struggle4progress Aug 2020 #10
Thanks for posting that... it puts the lie to Eastman's argument. Happy Hoosier Aug 2020 #13
A lot of good lawyers have come out of lower tier law schools. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #12
The ranking of his law school is beside the point. Dershowitz taught at Harvard ... StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #15
Do you know who disagrees with Dr. John Eastman VMA131Marine Aug 2020 #24
"I'm proud to be a hack without principles" struggle4progress Aug 2020 #29
well, that was a slightly different issue, and doesn't really contradict what he's saying here fishwax Aug 2020 #32
Cruz' situation is different but the principle is the same VMA131Marine Aug 2020 #34
he atgues that citizenship from birth applies in Harris 's case as well fishwax Aug 2020 #38
Yeah, you just restated my post you responded to. VMA131Marine Aug 2020 #40
no -- my post was affirming as factual what you were speculating as counterfactual fishwax Aug 2020 #41
Not to mention he ran & lost to her for (Atty Gen?). UTUSN Aug 2020 #25
Eastman is a far-right hack. Archae Aug 2020 #30
As a graduate of a "top 10" law school, I find your post ridiculously elitist. Progressive Law Aug 2020 #36
BTW, John Eastman is a graduate of the elite University of Chicago Law School. Progressive Law Aug 2020 #37
And Shithead seizes on it immediately. Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #39
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