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Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
49. Is that really true though?
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 05:35 AM
Aug 2020

As I see it, AOC's platform is really based on economic justice. She was a bartender - which is already elite among service jobs. She appeals to the younger generation, which is COMPLETELY economically screwed even if they originally came from the middle class.

People in their 20s and 30s now are economically crippled by at least three factors: 1) if they went to college, student debt on a level unprecedented in the past. I'm Gen X, in my early 50s, and I had student debt that took me about a decade to pay off - and it is SO MUCH WORSE for younger people. I have friends in their 30s who have good jobs (or at least did before the virus) but will never pay that debt off until they're accumulating more debt for nursing home care. 2) Whether they went to college or not, wage stagnation to absolutely shameful levels. If minimum wage had kept pace with earning power on the level it was in the 70s, it would be $22.50 an hour AT LEAST. That would raise up all levels, if $22.50 was the baseline, as it should be. 3) Healthcare being completely inaccessible to anyone in the working class. (And remember, TODAY'S working class isn't white guys in factories with union jobs, it's retail and low-paid health care workers, who are generally young and likely to be women and people of color.)

These are the people AOC speaks to. They're in every single state. If we can get all these people out to vote - and make sure their vote is counted, that's the hard part - we'll never lose again.

But we do need to make sure they get something in exchange for their vote. Obama delivered - I have health insurance now, I wouldn't if not for him. It's not great coverage but it's better than nothing.

People in purple states are stressed out by fear of poverty - which is a completely rational fear. I think progressives like AOC are the future of the party, because their ideas will actually help.

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It's about widening appeal to more voters.... cynatnite Aug 2020 #1
That widened appeal brings with it a wider ideological spread Amishman Aug 2020 #53
I'm starting to think that the republican party is going to shrink jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #2
I'm in the long line that don't want see 3rd Way poltics/policies used to make that happen. CentralMass Aug 2020 #5
I would prefer that too jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #9
Well here is the reality that some here won't face AOC is of no use to us in purple states. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #12
Yes empedocles Aug 2020 #19
Until AOC can demonstrate that she can win a state election such as Governor or Senate, it remains still_one Aug 2020 #28
Is that really true though? Withywindle Aug 2020 #49
Every time I hear someone throw out the term "Third Way"... Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2020 #24
I know who you mean...you know what...we need to win and until the so called progressive wing Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #26
Here is an article on it. The term is real and its embrace helped frame CentralMass Aug 2020 #27
yes. any time a Dem reaches any sort negotiating compromise SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #37
"Third Way" AGAIN, why do people keep bringing that up? Remember, they're DEMOCRATS!! George II Aug 2020 #30
Slanted article. It's baloney. Democratic party is about embracing everyone. onetexan Aug 2020 #3
Yes elleng Aug 2020 #7
This! We don't need that kind of bull shit noise Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #8
Purity now! Purity forever!11111 BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #11
Unite the country ace3csusm Aug 2020 #4
INCLUSIVENESS is NOT an 'identity crisis.' elleng Aug 2020 #6
Sure unite to deregulate, create a too big fail financial industry CentralMass Aug 2020 #10
I do hope you are not talking about Biden because that is not acceptable. He has done nothing that Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #14
Would you stop! sheshe2 Aug 2020 #15
Make no mistake.. agingdem Aug 2020 #23
Correct and I thank you. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #25
Well, if you keep bashing Democrats we may not be in a position to save it come January. George II Aug 2020 #34
hahaha. here we go again. rubes lapping up the "both sides" garbage SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #38
FUD is all you got. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #54
Are all four of these speaking on Monday? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #13
No. CentralMass Aug 2020 #16
You can find the schedule here lapucelle Aug 2020 #20
I listed it in post #21, taken directly from the DNC Convention website (link provided).... George II Aug 2020 #35
Thanks, George II. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2020 #46
2016 called, it wants it's infighting back. uncle ray Aug 2020 #17
It's an embarrassment. Doremus Aug 2020 #18
Here's the 2020 Democratic Party Platform. lapucelle Aug 2020 #22
Bazinga! George II Aug 2020 #36
ahhh..,the die hard fans who live to screech insults at their own team SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #39
They are the same ones who attack Democrats for failing to not bring in more voters JI7 Aug 2020 #47
+1 CentralMass Aug 2020 #44
I'm not part of your "we" . I know what I stand for and the Convention represented JI7 Aug 2020 #48
The list of speakers on all four nights is a true cross section of America.... George II Aug 2020 #21
Thank you. The way some people are going on, being Republican is contagious. betsuni Aug 2020 #31
Too bad the one who posted the link to the wikipedia article about Meg Whitman didn't read it all. George II Aug 2020 #32
how the f*** is Barack Obama not speaking SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #40
He's the last speaker on Wednesday. I copied/pasted the list as shown in each night's summary.... George II Aug 2020 #41
ok--thanks...so not the complete list above. SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #42
Well it wasn't called the complete list, and the link was provided for reference. George II Aug 2020 #43
Yawn StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #29
... sheshe2 Aug 2020 #33
Quite the glass half empty view DFW Aug 2020 #45
We'll do what we have to do to keep the current GOP from destroying our country struggle4progress Aug 2020 #50
Only in Opposite World. betsuni Aug 2020 #51
This is not some sort of Rubicon to be crossed at peril of losing support from the left pecosbob Aug 2020 #52
54 replies, one recommendation. panader0 Aug 2020 #55
Seems Trump and a few Berners have a sad this morning. MrsCoffee Aug 2020 #56
Christie Whitman, Meg Whitman, and Susan Molinari each spoke for less than a minute.... George II Aug 2020 #57
+1 dalton99a Aug 2020 #58
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