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Octafish

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21. Not exactly. LeMay ordered unauthorizedoverflights of Soviet airspace during Cuban Missile Crisis...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:21 AM
Sep 2012

While I trust the Pentagon and the nation's men and women in uniform, as a whole, there are a few exceptions.



Spy Flights of the Cold War

Review by Capt. Troy Thomas, USAF
Book by Paul Lashmar
Naval Institute Press, 118 Maryland Avenue, Annapolis, Maryland 21402, 1996, 256 pages, $29.95.
Document created: 13 May 99

Perceptions of the cold war often focus on nuclear arsenals and Third World surrogate conflicts, overlooking a persistent war of aerial espionage in which hundreds of airmen lose their lives. Spy Flights of the Cold War offers an intriguing yet controversial historical record of US and British aerial reconnaissance against the communist bloc from 1946 to 1963. The author’s research reveals numerous harrowing missions by brave aircrews flying deep into hostile territory on missions previously declared “routine.” Overlaying this operational history is a political account that indicts the US Air Force (USAF) and, specifically, Gen Curtis E. LeMay for exceeding presidential authority, manipulating intelligence estimates, and using the spy flights in an attempt to instigate another world war. Although it is a tribute to individual airmen, the text openly criticizes USAF leadership.

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Criticism of the USAF and LeMay is a prominent theme. In addition to questionable evidence that LeMay encouraged unauthorized overflight missions, Lashmar devotes an entire chapter to SAC’s aggressive use of reconnaissance missions as a political tool intent on provoking nuclear war. If successfully implemented, Project Control overflights would “demonstrate the Russians’ military impotency” and possibly create the conditions for a preventive war. In addition to attributing a prolonged cold war to General LeMay and other senior USAF leaders, Lashmar also contends that SAC and the USAF intelligence community inflated Soviet missile, and later bomber, strengths to justify inordinate spending on SAC. Although estimates by the intelligence community later proved high, evidence for a duplicitous USAF agenda is suspect.

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http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/bookrev/lashmar.html



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Thank you for posting this Trailrider1951 Sep 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #5
And big oils connections. Things do not seem to have changed much. jwirr Sep 2012 #9
You are most welcome, Trailrider1951! Here's the guy who should be writing the book on Gen. LeMay... Octafish Sep 2012 #18
kr Norrin Radd Sep 2012 #2
The Railroading of LCDR Terri Pike Octafish Oct 2012 #44
"JFK and the Unspeakable" by James Douglass should be required reading in classrooms drokhole Sep 2012 #3
+1 That book explains the last 49 years hifiguy Sep 2012 #10
JFK, FDR and 'Seven Days in May' Octafish Sep 2012 #13
It makes the scales fall off readers' eyes. Octafish Sep 2012 #19
To paraphrase one of my favorite comedians/philosophers... drokhole Sep 2012 #20
''It's just a ride.'' Octafish Oct 2012 #46
^^This x 1000000000 truebrit71 Oct 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #4
What JFK Really Said Octafish Sep 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #7
Who cares? they still followed the presidents orders. Javaman Sep 2012 #8
yup as long as they gollow civilian command who cares loli phabay Sep 2012 #14
Not exactly. LeMay ordered unauthorizedoverflights of Soviet airspace during Cuban Missile Crisis... Octafish Sep 2012 #21
My Mother told me a long time ago when I was a kid about a guy that lived in our neighborhood ArnoldLayne Sep 2012 #11
Thank you for sharing that, ArnoldLayne! We're just starting to learn the story... Octafish Oct 2012 #41
Kevin Costner's "13 Days" was a very accurate portrayal of this... MinM Sep 2012 #12
13 Days (2000) v Missiles of October (1974) MinM Sep 2012 #17
The Twelfth Day Octafish Sep 2012 #24
The Fourteenth Day MinM Sep 2012 #34
Thank you for the heads-up, MinM! Interesting Times, indeed: ''A U-2 has been lost off Alaska.'' Octafish Sep 2012 #22
The generals were obviously trying to provoke the Soviets into a massive retaliation! LongTomH Sep 2012 #25
Operation Hollywood: Pentagon v Costner MinM Sep 2012 #33
Mother Jones' Operation Hollywood cont... MinM Oct 2012 #35
World War II was so yesterday...Korea's the happening spot in 1953. Octafish Oct 2012 #37
Those who kept their wugs shut did all right. Octafish Oct 2012 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Sep 2012 #15
I wonder what this country would be like had we actually listened to Eisenhower's warning about the MIC taking over. Initech Sep 2012 #16
War Resisters has a nice graphic... Octafish Oct 2012 #40
Hell, I'd be happy if someone up top actually listened to it TODAY Blue_Tires Oct 2012 #45
Sole Surviving Son of a US Marine present and kicking, Sir! bobthedrummer Sep 2012 #23
We owe our freedom to you father and all who've defended this nation... Octafish Oct 2012 #42
Shoup was pushing for full on nuclear war on Cuba and Le May was playing the angles either way. nt patrice Sep 2012 #26
Echoed by Lemnitzer and Dulles who counseled the best time for a sneak attack was 'Fall 1963.' Octafish Oct 2012 #43
Bunch of fuckers gopiscrap Sep 2012 #27
wtf with the redneck crap loli phabay Sep 2012 #28
they weren't in private gopiscrap Sep 2012 #29
yeah as far as tbey were concerned tbey were loli phabay Sep 2012 #30
Not surprised by that response. Kingofalldems Sep 2012 #31
Agreed!!!! gopiscrap Sep 2012 #32
In October 1962, human civilization came close to being destroyed. MinM Oct 2012 #38
CIA still pushing the ''Castro Knew Ahead of Time'' Lie Octafish Oct 2012 #39
An interesting read. Justice4JFK Nov 2018 #48
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