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thucythucy

(8,926 posts)
17. I wonder though,
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:37 PM
Oct 2020

how do we keep people from being fooled again?

You say "you did not have to be educated to see what he was."

The problem is the people I'm describing don't read, and don't watch much news. What "news" they do get is from Facebook or YouTube or other on-line sources which are notoriously unreliable.

A big part of Secretary Clinton's problem was all the rabid disinformation that was out there, twenty years or more of right wing slanders. To get to the bottom of all the bullshit required doing the "homework."

So we had this situation where the "both-sides-ism" prevailed--if Trump was a pussy-grabber, Clinton murdered Vince Foster. If Trump was connected to the Russians, the Clintons dealt with Latin American drug lords.

It occurs to me now that a huge source of this BS was the National Inquirer--which we now know was a part of the "capture and kill" culture that buried genuine dirt on Trump, and spread bogus crap about the Clintons. Fact is that National Inquirer, because of its salacious stories and easy to digest format, is (or was) another major source of "news" for this particular demo.

There's a DUer who has posted multiple times about how we need to figure out a way to counter hate radio--another huge part of the problem. One thing that makes hate radio so effective is that it is geared precisely to folks who don't read for information, who seek out "news" sources that are easily digested.

If we don't deal with these issues, eight or twelve years from now we'll end up in the same place.

Reagan Bush trashed the economy--Bill Clinton fixed it, and yet only eight years after the GOP debacle the Republicans were able to garner enough votes to steal the 2000 election.

By 2008 Bush II had again trashed the economy and--as an added bonus--had us involved in a disastrous foreign adventure that nearly destroyed our standing around the world. President Obama fixed the economy, restored our reputation around the world, and yet in 2016 the GOP again garnered enough votes to retake the White House--and stack the courts with RWNJs.

I worry that once Biden/Harris pull us out of the current mess, we will again end up with a significant slice of the electorate who will again be duped into voting GOP.

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GOOD rambling to inspire "GOOD trouble." Thank you, tt. n/t MFGsunny Oct 2020 #1
You're welcome, and best wishes. nt thucythucy Oct 2020 #2
Absolutely. Good point. cwydro Oct 2020 #3
Some very "good trouble" inspiring rambling indeed, and there's an important parallel to be drawn... better Oct 2020 #4
Wow! I was totally unaware of that part of Secretary Clinton's speech. thucythucy Oct 2020 #5
A LOT of people were not aware, and if you ask me, we missed an opportunity there. better Oct 2020 #6
Thanks again. thucythucy Oct 2020 #7
Yes, sadly only one part of that got publicized. cwydro Oct 2020 #10
A ramble worth reading, excellent points TY! arthritisR_US Oct 2020 #8
I used to be much more open to the idea that many (used to think "most") Trump.... LAS14 Oct 2020 #9
For my part, I'm afraid I can't summon warmth of heart for people Aristus Oct 2020 #11
I agree. People do not want to be ashamed. nolabear Oct 2020 #12
Other then race, I see no examples of certain traits. Kaleva Oct 2020 #13
I agree. Trump supporters cover a wide gamut. thucythucy Oct 2020 #14
I agree with you on that. Kaleva Oct 2020 #15
They are very nationalistic. Trump and people like Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley Blue_true Oct 2020 #20
At this point in time I will not attack anyone who is sorry Meowmee Oct 2020 #16
I wonder though, thucythucy Oct 2020 #17
People that voted for him are also very nationalistic, I believe that he took maximum Blue_true Oct 2020 #21
If they listened to the propaganda about hrc etc Meowmee Oct 2020 #22
What I have seen of people that voted for Trump is a somewhat complex picture. Blue_true Oct 2020 #18
Interesting thought. thucythucy Oct 2020 #19
I believe that what democratic politicians and strategists do is talk over those people's heads. Blue_true Oct 2020 #23
The "Trump-types" didn't appear overnight. They've been festering for decades. Progressive Jones Oct 2020 #24
Well, anyone who still supports the rude pumpkin thucythucy Oct 2020 #25
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