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thucythucy

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25. Well, anyone who still supports the rude pumpkin
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 09:55 AM
Oct 2020

at this point is beyond reach. The people who stick with him now are most likely attracted either to his white supremacy, (and/or his misogyny and/or his homophobia) or are so wedded to the notion of "owning the libs" that they'll actually risk death by virus for themselves and the people around them for this dubious and ridiculous form of satisfaction. Add to this clot of folks are the actual millionaires and billionaires who care only about accumulating more wealth, and the rest of us be damned, and then throw in the folks who care about abortion as their one and only issue, and we have what's left of the support Trump garnered in 2016.

These folks aren't worth the time and resources needed even to begin their deprogramming. Probably the only thing that will change their minds at this point would be some cataclysmic personal experience. We've seen some of those conversions--for instance the people who voted for Trump in '16 but then had to endure someone they love dying a grisly death due to his incompetence, or farmers who are near destitution because of his trade war with China--but that's a helluva steep price to pay for enlightenment.

It reminds of a Simpsons episode where Homer finally accepts the humanity of a gay man but only after that man saves Homer's life. The line I recall is the gay character saying, "Now if only every gay person in the world could save your life at least once, you'd be fine with us."

April 1945 saw lots of Germans who were still sticking with Hitler, even as their world burned down around them.

I suppose most every society has a hard core of gullible haters.

I'm hoping though we can at least bring some non-voters over to the light. The folks who in '16 succumbed to the "both sides are awful" and "my vote won't matter anyway" and "national politics don't affect me" arguments. And then also retain beyond this election cycle the Trump voters who have now swung over the Biden.

Anyway, thanks for your comment, and best wishes.

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GOOD rambling to inspire "GOOD trouble." Thank you, tt. n/t MFGsunny Oct 2020 #1
You're welcome, and best wishes. nt thucythucy Oct 2020 #2
Absolutely. Good point. cwydro Oct 2020 #3
Some very "good trouble" inspiring rambling indeed, and there's an important parallel to be drawn... better Oct 2020 #4
Wow! I was totally unaware of that part of Secretary Clinton's speech. thucythucy Oct 2020 #5
A LOT of people were not aware, and if you ask me, we missed an opportunity there. better Oct 2020 #6
Thanks again. thucythucy Oct 2020 #7
Yes, sadly only one part of that got publicized. cwydro Oct 2020 #10
A ramble worth reading, excellent points TY! arthritisR_US Oct 2020 #8
I used to be much more open to the idea that many (used to think "most") Trump.... LAS14 Oct 2020 #9
For my part, I'm afraid I can't summon warmth of heart for people Aristus Oct 2020 #11
I agree. People do not want to be ashamed. nolabear Oct 2020 #12
Other then race, I see no examples of certain traits. Kaleva Oct 2020 #13
I agree. Trump supporters cover a wide gamut. thucythucy Oct 2020 #14
I agree with you on that. Kaleva Oct 2020 #15
They are very nationalistic. Trump and people like Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley Blue_true Oct 2020 #20
At this point in time I will not attack anyone who is sorry Meowmee Oct 2020 #16
I wonder though, thucythucy Oct 2020 #17
People that voted for him are also very nationalistic, I believe that he took maximum Blue_true Oct 2020 #21
If they listened to the propaganda about hrc etc Meowmee Oct 2020 #22
What I have seen of people that voted for Trump is a somewhat complex picture. Blue_true Oct 2020 #18
Interesting thought. thucythucy Oct 2020 #19
I believe that what democratic politicians and strategists do is talk over those people's heads. Blue_true Oct 2020 #23
The "Trump-types" didn't appear overnight. They've been festering for decades. Progressive Jones Oct 2020 #24
Well, anyone who still supports the rude pumpkin thucythucy Oct 2020 #25
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