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Roisin Ni Fiachra

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 08:58 AM Nov 2020

Forget about "moving on" from Trump -- the nation can't heal without accountability [View all]

This is a serious mistake. Words like "unity" and "forgiveness" sound great in the abstract, but are utterly meaningless in the current political context for one reason: The sole responsibility for all this healing is being foisted, once again, on the backs of liberals. Conservatives can't be bothered. They're too busy working on their next moves to undermine democracy, sow division and create chaos.

This pattern — Republicans screw everything up and are allowed to get away with it in the name of "unity," and take that as permission to go even further the next time — has been playing out since Richard Nixon first snagged his post-Watergate pardon. In a recent feature in the New York Times Magazine, Jonathan Mahler laid out the frustrating pattern in teeth-grinding detail:
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But can a wound really heal when one party is busy applying bandages, while the other lurks in waiting, ready to stab the victim again? Of course not. And that's the problem we're facing. The "unity" isn't unity at all. It's a fake unity in which one side — the side that did not cause the damage wrought by Trump or Bush or Reagan or Nixon — does all the work, while the other side keeps looking for new opportunities to cause trouble. If anything, conservatives grows ever bolder in their corruption, realizing they will never face consequences for their actions, and in fact can count on the left to clean up all their messes for them.
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It's time to stop coddling the easily hurt feelings of conservatives and instead turn our attention toward the nearly 80 million people who turned out — despite extensive efforts at disenfranchisement — to bring the Trump presidency to an end. What do we owe those Americans, the ones who actually did their part to save this country? Instead of demanding that they do more to pander to conservatives' injured feelings, why not, for once, repay them for their hard work with justice? After all Trump has put this country through, that's the least those who stood up and resisted him deserve.

https://www.salon.com/2020/11/29/forget-about-moving-on-from-trump--the-nation-cant-heal-without-accountability/


This article speaks for me. The only unity I'm interested is the only unity that is possible in the real world - the unity of Democrats and all others dedicated to preventing the forces of fascism, primarily the Republican party and their rapidly growing lunatic RW extremist branch, QAnon, from destroying democracy, the rule of law, and the United States of America.

We are the people who saved democracy in America from the brink of dictatorship. We so righteously deserve to see justice carried out, for our efforts, and because it is the right thing to do.

Coddling fascists for decades is exactly how we got to where we are today - exhausted from fighting to just barely save our democracy from a fascist lunatic fringe, during a deadly plague caused by a virus, which Trump, the wannabe dictator and leader of the lunatic fascist fringe, was instrumental in deliberately spreading throughout the US population for his own selfish gain.

These fascist termites cannot be allowed to get away with continually eating away and weakening the foundation of our democracy, our institutions. and our government itself, or they will soon succeed in toppling our house, leaving us, and future generations of Americans, with a brutal fascist dictatorship, and no possibility of changing anything through democratic processes.

We must all stand united against fascism, and remain so. To do otherwise will result in the death of the democratic United States of America.
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THIS! So much---! nt Atticus Nov 2020 #1
Agreed with this so hard Mystery sage Nov 2020 #2
Whole heartedly agree, plus thucythucy Nov 2020 #3
That would definitely be a good start. BComplex Nov 2020 #49
We are not going to "heal" either way Cosmocat Nov 2020 #4
Yes. People need to know it was wrong. tecelote Nov 2020 #5
Fake unity is already cooked and on the table. theaocp Nov 2020 #6
K & R! lastlib Nov 2020 #7
exactly. The future GOP tinpot dictators will be smarter and more fascistic. There can be no moving onetexan Nov 2020 #20
+1! This! Dustlawyer Nov 2020 #42
And to start the process, we need to state the obvious:corporations ARE NOT people. BComplex Nov 2020 #50
we need open trial - subpoena for congress testimony under oath AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #8
Open trial and testimony under oath required mollie8 Nov 2020 #16
Very good post. The article speaks for me as well. PatrickforO Nov 2020 #9
Mostly agree, but RVN VET71 Nov 2020 #10
revel in majority and demand just reckoning for beyond-simply-criminal fuckery; financial crime bringthePaine Nov 2020 #11
I agree, isolate and destroy Trumpism... Jon King Nov 2020 #12
"We must all stand united against fascism" Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #13
Couldn't agree more. Richard D Nov 2020 #14
Yes!!! niyad Nov 2020 #15
Great article.. ewagner Nov 2020 #17
What - exactly - is your accountability effort going to achieve? brooklynite Nov 2020 #18
THIS! ALL OF THIS!!! CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #19
Great post, excellent Salon article. FrankTC Nov 2020 #21
K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt JoeOtterbein Nov 2020 #22
Amen x 1000 judesedit Nov 2020 #23
I'm ALREADY healing. And it'll go even faster after january. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #24
You do not let the leader and henchmen of an attempted fascist coup walk. Hotler Nov 2020 #25
Let's not forget that tRump milked prosecuting Obama & Hillary for all it was worth Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2020 #26
Better let Biden know housecat Nov 2020 #27
Yes, accountability. leanforward Nov 2020 #28
I wish that I could rec this more than once. skydive forever Nov 2020 #29
Agreed PirateRo Nov 2020 #30
How about banning all talk of this moron completely? Expunge his name from all news, all articles Baclava Nov 2020 #31
Agree with this article's position. northoftheborder Nov 2020 #32
You are right regarding the savior complex. ananda Nov 2020 #33
We need to make 'fascism' an expletive the same way they did to 'liberal' bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #34
We need justice! NO to letting that scum go. Actions must bring consequences! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2020 #35
I agree. Investigate and prosecute EVERY CRIME these fuckers committed in office. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #36
It's pretty straightforward. Uphold the rule of law. Martin Eden Nov 2020 #37
Since Nixon we have let them off the hook. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2020 #38
Abso-fuckig-lutely! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #39
Yes, yes, and yes, again. Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #40
Any Intelligent Person Can See the Pattern That Has Been Happening and Escalating Since Nixon panfluteman Nov 2020 #41
Nixon walked. Reagan walked. GW Bush walked. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #44
Roisin Ni Fiachra.... Upthevibe Nov 2020 #43
Most of the nation has already moved on. Kaleva Nov 2020 #45
How about starting by putting zero tolerance teeth in subpoenas? NBachers Nov 2020 #46
Unfortunate that doing so will take much political COURAGE. Is leadership willing to take them down? JudyM Nov 2020 #47
This article speaks for me, too, Roisin. BComplex Nov 2020 #48
Lock the fat piece of shit and his enablers up Blue Owl Nov 2020 #51
Exposing the Trump cabal's crimes will do way more to heal the nation than reaching out jalan48 Nov 2020 #52
ONLY forgiveness for fellow Americans who were lied to and were dumb enough to believe it. TigressDem Nov 2020 #53
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