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Hortensis

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27. That's not the point. It's about duty, not just votes.

Tue Dec 15, 2020, 06:47 PM

Dec 2020

And it's not THOSE people who sabotaged Democrats, most were always going to vote against if they voted.

It was the dissident/Sanders left who knowingly splintered away enough support to throw what turned out to be the entire nation to Trump/Republicans. They knew both Russia and America's kleptocrats, RW MSM and Republicans were using them to elect Trump and the Republicans, but they accepted that assistance and never warned those who trusted them.

You could say entirely truthfully that speaking truth to Sanders' hard-core supporters didn't gain her votes.
They promised to vote third party (half did, half voted for Trump), but SHE HAD TO TRY. She had a DUTY TO THEM, as well as everyone else.

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Sincere question: Waste of time for President-elect Biden to go on FauxNews, OANN and Newsmax ? [View all] steve2470 Dec 2020 OP

Faux, Not A Waste Of Time ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #1

Biden needs to be seen and heard across the spectrum - JB knows that empedocles Dec 2020 #7

that was my theory also steve2470 Dec 2020 #10

That's Why I Said Yes To Faux ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #11

Avoid them, marginalize them also by never mentioning them. Brainfodder Dec 2020 #2

Do a Trump: Only if they are 'fair.' Everytime they make shit up, they lose some cabinet interview. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #28

OANN? Really? Newsmax is hardly any better. Fox, maybe hlthe2b Dec 2020 #3

I only mentioned OANN and Newsmax because apparently more are watching them steve2470 Dec 2020 #4

Yes. johnp3907 Dec 2020 #5

Fox if it was Chris Wallace or Shep Smith NewJeffCT Dec 2020 #6

Shep Smith quit, good for him! He is on CNBC now, I think steve2470 Dec 2020 #8

I've seen it a few times and he was decent on it. Nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #15

Mayor Pete managed it quite well on Fox. Perhaps he'd be a good candidate? (nt) ehrnst Dec 2020 #9

Agree. He's very good at handling right wing tools. Nt spooky3 Dec 2020 #12

Worse than a waste of time. We don't want to grant legitimacy or gravitas to propaganda outlets unblock Dec 2020 #13

Sitting down in a septic tank with an earnest smile on your face does not alter the stench. nt Atticus Dec 2020 #14

No Proud liberal 80 Dec 2020 #16

There is nothing wrong with appearing on FOX news. Newsmax & OANN would be a waste of time. n/t KWR65 Dec 2020 #17

Yes of course luv2fly Dec 2020 #18

Waste of time to speak to the American people? Gasp! Hortensis Dec 2020 #19

Didn't work out so well for Obama wnylib Dec 2020 #24

That's not the point. It's about duty, not just votes. Hortensis Dec 2020 #27

I was referring to the obstructionism wnylib Dec 2020 #30

Subversive groups have their hands on the guillotine. Hortensis Dec 2020 #31

That's not the point. She had a DUTY. Hortensis Dec 2020 #29

So you believe that it's a duty wnylib Dec 2020 #32

Anti-democracy forces are on the far left also. Do you really not Hortensis Dec 2020 #33

Well put empedocles Dec 2020 #34

Yes, it's a waste of time and worse, WITH THIS EXCEPTION... RobertDevereaux Dec 2020 #20

Fox can be ok if it's with Wallace. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2020 #21

I think Fux is okay. Maybe even necessary. LakeArenal Dec 2020 #22

Isn't appearing at these locations give them a burst of legitimacy? secondwind Dec 2020 #23

yes...send pete instead. samnsara Dec 2020 #25

Avoid like the plague. Joe will be POTUS. Surrogates may go if they have the stomach. nt Hekate Dec 2020 #26

Complete waste with OANN and Newsmax. With Fox News, it might not be a complete waste depending highplainsdem Dec 2020 #35

Maybe Fox because it might be the only way most repubs will ever get a chance to "know" him mtnsnake Dec 2020 #36