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Showing Original Post only (View all)The Differences Between the Vaccines Matter [View all]
Yes, all of the COVID-19 vaccines are very good. No, theyre not all the same.https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/03/pfizer-moderna-and-johnson-johnson-vaccines-compared/618226/

Public-health officials are enthusiastic about the new, single-shot COVID-19 vaccine from Johnson & Johnson, despite its having a somewhat lower efficacy at preventing symptomatic illness than other available options. Although clinical-trial data peg that rate at 72 percent in the United States, compared with 94 and 95 percent for the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines, many experts say we shouldnt fixate on those numbers. Much more germane, they say, is the fact that the Johnson & Johnson shot, like the other two, is essentially perfect when it comes to preventing the gravest outcomes. Im super-pumped about this, Virginias vaccine coordinator told The New York Times last weekend. A hundred percent efficacy against deaths and hospitalizations? Thats all I need to hear.
The same glowing messagethat the COVID-19 vaccines are all equivalent, at least where it really countshas been getting public-health officials and pundits super-pumped for weeks now. Its potential value for promoting vaccination couldnt be more clear: Well all be better off, and this nightmare will be over sooner, if people know that the best vaccine of all is whichever one they can get the soonest. With that in mind, Vox has urged its readers to attend to the most important vaccine statisticthe fact that there have been zero cases of hospitalization or death in clinical trials for all of these vaccines. The physician and CNN medical analyst Leana Wen also made a point of noting that all of the vaccines are essentially a hundred percent in this regard. And half a dozen former members of President Joe Bidens COVID-19 Advisory Board wrote in USA Today, Varying effectiveness rates miss the most important point: The vaccines were all 100% effective in the vaccine trials in stopping hospitalizations and death.
Theres a problem here. Its certainly true that all three of the FDA-authorized vaccines are very goodamazing, evenat protecting peoples health. No one should refrain from seeking vaccination on the theory that any might be second-rate. But its also true that the COVID-19 vaccines arent all the same: Some are more effective than others at preventing illness, for example; some cause fewer adverse reactions; some are more convenient; some were made using more familiar methods and technologies. As for the claim that the vaccines have proved perfectly and equally effective at preventing hospitalization and death? Its just not right. These differences among the options could matter quite a bit, in different ways to different people, and they should not be minimized or covered over. Especially not now: Vaccine supplies in the U.S. will soon surpass demand, even as more contagious viral variants spread throughout the country. In the meantime, governors are revoking their rules on face masks, or taking other steps to loosen their restrictions. Its tempting to believe that a simple, decisive messageeven one that verges on hypeis whats most needed at this crucial moment. But if the message could be wrong, that has consequences.
The idea that all of the vaccines are pretty much the same, in that theyre perfect at preventing COVID-19 hospitalizations and death, got its legs on social media. The USA Today op-ed by the former members of the Biden team illustrated this by linking to a data table found on Twitter. Created by the infectious-disease doctor Monica Gandhi, it showed a variety of trial results for six different vaccines. One column was rendered in canary yellowProtection from hospitalizations/deathand every cell read 100%. A similar table, tweeted out a few days earlier by the dean of Brown Universitys School of Public Health, Ashish Jha, conveyed the same idea through a grid of zerosas in, zero people hospitalized, zero people dead. The prominent physician and researcher Eric Topol followed with his own clinical-trial data summary featuring a column of 100 percents. That is impressive! he wrote across the top. All told, their posts would be retweeted about 15,000 times. The data were indeed suggestive of an encouraging idea. Based on the numbers so far, we can expect the vaccines to provide extremely high levels of protection against the most dire outcomes. Still, we dont know how highand its clear they wont uniformly cause hospitalizations and deaths from COVID-19 to disappear in vaccinated people.
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Wouldn't be the first time a title was contradicted by the body of the article
FBaggins
Mar 2021
#62
All three vaccines are available. There is no reason not to evaluate the differences
Ms. Toad
Mar 2021
#4
You can edit your original post by removing some content like a paragraph, inserting an
littlemissmartypants
Mar 2021
#14
here are more excerpts, I rarely post an OP that starts in the middle, I also highly recco subbing
Celerity
Mar 2021
#15
last I saw from Fauci and others was that the data is not in if the vaccines completely stop
Celerity
Mar 2021
#38
No, we have not been vaccinated at all. Our high immunity levels are all from the asymptomatic
Celerity
Mar 2021
#55
For sure people can go get an upgraded version after they have had the first type. In fact, booster
Celerity
Mar 2021
#59
Pfizer is working quite better against the S. African and Brasilian variants over here than Moderna
Celerity
Mar 2021
#10
Actually, my entire school union is getting vaccinated Friday. No choice of vaccine, just
GPV
Mar 2021
#18
Not necessarily - according to the CDC adverse vaccine injury reports (VAERS)
womanofthehills
Mar 2021
#65
Some places make appointments and don't tell you which vaccine you are going to get.
LisaL
Mar 2021
#26
"The vaccines were all 100% effective in stopping hospitalizations and death."
Shanti Shanti Shanti
Mar 2021
#25
Those 95% efficacy rates, btw, are not against the variants. Studies here in the EU are actually
Celerity
Mar 2021
#56
I am not qualified to render an opinion as to which is best, all I can do is post the latest info
Celerity
Mar 2021
#70
I am still waiting for a valid reason to cut off T1 Diabetics from vaccination priority.
WyattKansas
Mar 2021
#64