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(51,352 posts) Thu Mar 11, 2021, 08:16 AM Mar 2021

Shadi Hamid on Morning Joe. The single worst guest I think I have ever seen on that show. [View all]

ETA, single worst non Rethug guest.

A Muslim, but is arguing that the nation needs a nationwide resurgence of Christianity in the USA to fight the secular Democratic party's out of control 'wokeism' AND then, whilst defining wokeism, they then attack LGBTQ rights and BLM style racial justice. They are whingeing that 'Christians' (and they said mainstream, not RW MAGAts) feel 'cancelled' because LGBTQ rights are against Christian values and they are afraid to speak up now.

They tried to use Obama (who was against gay marriage and they painted that as his Christian values driving this) as evidence of a person being forced to turn on his values. Hamid said that Trump pulled 30% of the Muslin vote despite all the anti Muslim rhetoric because they saw him as upholding traditional 'values' and that the Democrats have to retake that initiative and fight against secularism. They are painting this bloke (and he claims it as well) to be anti RW.

FUCK this gaslighting shit!

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Shadi Hamid on Morning Joe. The single worst guest I think I have ever seen on that show. [View all] Celerity Mar 2021 OP

Obama was the first president to support same-sex marriage. MrsCoffee Mar 2021 #1

yes, and they were using that example as a bad thing, a cave in to what he called 'wokeism' Celerity Mar 2021 #3

He was not always in favor of it. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #29

The less "religion", the better. MANative Mar 2021 #2

agreed jcgoldie Mar 2021 #32

Interesting. I watched more than half that interview, and secondwind Mar 2021 #4

Me, either. nt duhneece Mar 2021 #10

He was blathering about his Atlantic article, link below CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #5

thanks for the link!, and yes, very similar (obviously, lol, it is the same person) Celerity Mar 2021 #7

DU thread on the Atlantic article here: hunter Mar 2021 #19

He did an article in the Atlantic dhol82 Mar 2021 #6

yes, thanks for the link, I am reading it now from another poster who gave it to me Celerity Mar 2021 #8

Obama supported same sex marriage before running for President JI7 Mar 2021 #9

he started opposing it when he ran for Senate in 2004 according to this article below Celerity Mar 2021 #11

"As Christianity's hold, in particular, has weakened, ideological Hortensis Mar 2021 #12

lolwut Act_of_Reparation Mar 2021 #13

Indeed, that was a head spinner for me. It goes against tens of thousands of years Celerity Mar 2021 #15

:) You can hold to that belief with religious-level dogmatism even Hortensis Mar 2021 #16

In "It Can't Happen Here," by Sinclair Lewis, a character says the next great battle will be between shrike3 Mar 2021 #18

Tolerance! Yes. I just mentioned that below, and then found this. Yes!!! Hortensis Mar 2021 #24

I find his ideas repugnant, bigoted, and his analysis shoddy, simple as that. It really pissed me Celerity Mar 2021 #21

profoundly disagree with this take Celerity Mar 2021 #14

"Suspension of disbelief" requires only the will, not a god, Celerity. nt Hortensis Mar 2021 #20

but a god or gods require it nt Celerity Mar 2021 #25

I sort of agree with him. shrike3 Mar 2021 #17

:) Oh, excellent. "some people just need to believe in something and Hortensis Mar 2021 #23

most religions, and certainly the 3 Abrahamic ones, are by definition, the epitome of intolerance Celerity Mar 2021 #26

True or not, they'd hardly be the ONLY epitomes of intolerance. Hortensis Mar 2021 #27

oh, do tell Celerity Mar 2021 #28

If it was necessary, what'd be the point? If not necessary, Hortensis Mar 2021 #33

Hell is actually a very old concept that predates Christianity probably by thousands of years. shrike3 Mar 2021 #31

All good suggestions. An emphasis on ethics, simply doing what is right, in small ways as you say. shrike3 Mar 2021 #30

Certainly. But we almost all want to be good, but without guidance Hortensis Mar 2021 #34

I watched and listened to that this morning and was irate dsc Mar 2021 #22

Um, I remember a guest in 2015/16 who was worse.... themaguffin Mar 2021 #35

I said non rethug (added it in close to the time I posted it) Celerity Mar 2021 #36

I caught some of this interview. I missed the swipe at LGBTQ but boy howdy... msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #37