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11. he started opposing it when he ran for Senate in 2004 according to this article below

Thu Mar 11, 2021, 09:00 AM

Mar 2021

He started out supporting it, then went to undecided, then to opposing it, then he switched back to his supporting it (thanks in part to Biden I think)

See Obama's 20-Year Evolution on LGBT Rights

https://time.com/3816952/obama-gay-lesbian-transgender-lgbt-rights/

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Shadi Hamid on Morning Joe. The single worst guest I think I have ever seen on that show. [View all] Celerity Mar 2021 OP

Obama was the first president to support same-sex marriage. MrsCoffee Mar 2021 #1

yes, and they were using that example as a bad thing, a cave in to what he called 'wokeism' Celerity Mar 2021 #3

He was not always in favor of it. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #29

The less "religion", the better. MANative Mar 2021 #2

agreed jcgoldie Mar 2021 #32

Interesting. I watched more than half that interview, and secondwind Mar 2021 #4

Me, either. nt duhneece Mar 2021 #10

He was blathering about his Atlantic article, link below CurtEastPoint Mar 2021 #5

thanks for the link!, and yes, very similar (obviously, lol, it is the same person) Celerity Mar 2021 #7

DU thread on the Atlantic article here: hunter Mar 2021 #19

He did an article in the Atlantic dhol82 Mar 2021 #6

yes, thanks for the link, I am reading it now from another poster who gave it to me Celerity Mar 2021 #8

Obama supported same sex marriage before running for President JI7 Mar 2021 #9

he started opposing it when he ran for Senate in 2004 according to this article below Celerity Mar 2021 #11

"As Christianity's hold, in particular, has weakened, ideological Hortensis Mar 2021 #12

lolwut Act_of_Reparation Mar 2021 #13

Indeed, that was a head spinner for me. It goes against tens of thousands of years Celerity Mar 2021 #15

:) You can hold to that belief with religious-level dogmatism even Hortensis Mar 2021 #16

In "It Can't Happen Here," by Sinclair Lewis, a character says the next great battle will be between shrike3 Mar 2021 #18

Tolerance! Yes. I just mentioned that below, and then found this. Yes!!! Hortensis Mar 2021 #24

I find his ideas repugnant, bigoted, and his analysis shoddy, simple as that. It really pissed me Celerity Mar 2021 #21

profoundly disagree with this take Celerity Mar 2021 #14

"Suspension of disbelief" requires only the will, not a god, Celerity. nt Hortensis Mar 2021 #20

but a god or gods require it nt Celerity Mar 2021 #25

I sort of agree with him. shrike3 Mar 2021 #17

:) Oh, excellent. "some people just need to believe in something and Hortensis Mar 2021 #23

most religions, and certainly the 3 Abrahamic ones, are by definition, the epitome of intolerance Celerity Mar 2021 #26

True or not, they'd hardly be the ONLY epitomes of intolerance. Hortensis Mar 2021 #27

oh, do tell Celerity Mar 2021 #28

If it was necessary, what'd be the point? If not necessary, Hortensis Mar 2021 #33

Hell is actually a very old concept that predates Christianity probably by thousands of years. shrike3 Mar 2021 #31

All good suggestions. An emphasis on ethics, simply doing what is right, in small ways as you say. shrike3 Mar 2021 #30

Certainly. But we almost all want to be good, but without guidance Hortensis Mar 2021 #34

I watched and listened to that this morning and was irate dsc Mar 2021 #22

Um, I remember a guest in 2015/16 who was worse.... themaguffin Mar 2021 #35

I said non rethug (added it in close to the time I posted it) Celerity Mar 2021 #36

I caught some of this interview. I missed the swipe at LGBTQ but boy howdy... msfiddlestix Mar 2021 #37