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NJCher

(40,775 posts)
36. Longing for social justice: that's on you.
Mon May 3, 2021, 11:31 AM
May 2021

I have it, too. I just channel mine into organized work through groups devoted to those goals. I have both organized and led these groups and I've also joined some and worked for changes in the justice system through that method. If there is no group providing this, one needs to be formed.

Outrage: that's on us to pressure the legislators who represent us. Some of them did express outrage. We as voters need to support those people. They will know who else is likely to join in. Did you do that?

Regardless of the above, the investigations aren't finished yet. I don't think you can expect them to be thrown out of Congress without phone records and other supporting evidence, which I happen to know are being investigated as we speak.

Re clown show in AZ, the media I watch has been very good about covering it. I watch both CNN and MSNBC and have yet to hear them call it a fourth recount. I alsowatch CBS, NBC, and ABC nightly news.

Violent rioters being released: each case is individual. There is discretion for the judge. Judges don't always make the best decisions. Right now I am dealing with one who failed to read the jury instructions, yet the guy got sent to prison for 18 months. So the jury didn't even get instructions and as a result, wrongly sentenced this person to prison. What's he going to do about it? Well, in this case the person had money so he will probably get a settlement of some type, but how do you pay for 18 months taken out of a person's life? Nothing will replace that, no amount of money.

And if you don't have the money to sue the system, what happens to you?

Justice systems in rural areas, IMO, can be a joke. It's like they are "playing court." The justice system is very complicated and they don't/can't grasp it.

Re the 5-8 years, later I thought about the fact that there is photographic evidence, so that should shorten each case--in some cases considerably.

What I see is that you are complaining about the fact that these people are carrying on in Congress while they visibly support their insurrection. This is an important point, but you can't just expect this counter demonstration to happen spontaneously.

This can and should be remedied by public campaigns to keep the heat on. If you notice, the Dems have television commercials running now about the American Families and American Jobs plan. I can't see them doing a campaign on this issue because it would interfere with their forward thinking messaging, however, I think an ancilliary organization should do it. It should be planned and coordinated. We have the chance to get these people like Hawley et al out of government now and we should do it.

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Sure, but 'we' didn't actually have control at the time, and yes, elleng May 2021 #1
I am similarly annoyed and dismayed my friend ... Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #2
Have to disagree with large parts bottomofthehill May 2021 #19
Not that terrible bottomofthehill May 2021 #23
Nothing to worry about bottomofthehill May 2021 #24
Savage, this is a chemical attack bottomofthehill May 2021 #25
I have to agree with you. wnylib May 2021 #26
You make good points, I should've said that only a % behaved like savages Hugh_Lebowski May 2021 #37
Thanks for letting me unload bottomofthehill May 2021 #38
Only a percent. Yeah, 99 percent. lagomorph777 May 2021 #39
Atticus, your posts always reflect what is going on in my mind NewHendoLib May 2021 #3
People like Frank Figliuzzi imply we're still on the appetizer course. Ilsa May 2021 #4
How long does it take you to investigate a crime and get a conviction? brooklynite May 2021 #5
I nave the same concerns as you do Tennessee Hillbilly May 2021 #6
I don't think we will ever have Justice that is deserved oldbones May 2021 #7
I Keep Saying This. . . Collimator May 2021 #16
I so get what you're saying but I'm hopeful Phoenix61 May 2021 #8
The Insurrection has opened the door and exposed the RW domestic terrorist movement. Baked Potato May 2021 #9
Thanks Atticus. No words to add. Just thank you for writing/saying so well. 7wo7rees May 2021 #10
Treason is the new jaywalking. hay rick May 2021 #11
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2021 #12
More than 410 defendants have been arrested so far. pnwmom May 2021 #13
K and R Ferrets are Cool May 2021 #14
I have very little doubt that none of the insurrection leaders will face any penalty Poiuyt May 2021 #15
The FBI makes quite a show with the little fish Ponietz May 2021 #28
In my heart, there will be no justice in any of this until Marie Marie May 2021 #17
I think there was a huge psychological impact on the general public. Irish_Dem May 2021 #18
When some harsh prison terms are given and people are being made an example of what Pepsidog May 2021 #20
I hate to think of you in a really down mood. soldierant May 2021 #21
I feel the same way karin_sj May 2021 #22
If I really let it sink in, it feels traumatizing. It's really bad. Also weighing heavy.... KatK May 2021 #27
I'm hoping cases are being built against the main enablers Warpy May 2021 #29
Pretty obvious you don't know diddly NJCher May 2021 #30
My politics guru has pointed out hydrolastic May 2021 #31
I trust that the Democrats Elessar Zappa May 2021 #33
"Pretty obvious you don't know diddly about the justice system". Atticus May 2021 #35
Longing for social justice: that's on you. NJCher May 2021 #36
"Let"? Conservatives actually control more of this country than we do Hortensis May 2021 #32
Golden Opportunity to set the record for history was lost. Kid Berwyn May 2021 #34
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