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steve2470

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18. so true, I never bought into that nonsense but it was out there

Fri Aug 27, 2021, 10:41 AM

Aug 2021

I was trying hard to be optimistic in my thought experiment, but there is a real possibility that Trump could win again. No matter who we run. If we cannot get our turnout up to 2020 levels again, Trump (or the loathsome DeSantis) wins.

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Thought experiment: Biden does not run in 2024 but VP Kamala Harris does... [View all] steve2470 Aug 2021 OP

Not sure GOPers would let Trump run leftstreet Aug 2021 #1

They're too small now Polybius Aug 2021 #9

Where are you seeing that? Marius25 Aug 2021 #10

The media hauling out all the PNACers and neocons leftstreet Aug 2021 #17

If alive, he will run, even if in jail, he will run Johonny Aug 2021 #54

If they couldn't stop him in 2016, what makes you think that could stop him now? Jose Garcia Aug 2021 #68

I think this has been one of the plans from the beginning. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #2

Yes I think so too. honest.abe Aug 2021 #4

Exactly. This was his implied response to the age issue when he ran for president. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #16

And that won't help elect her...Americans don't vote on foreign policy. She needs to live in the Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #30

Yes but she cannot run without foreign policy chops. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #34

They are already attacking her unmercifully. I expect given that she left the 2020 primary early Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #62

Yes, the situation in this country is dire, and Joe is the best person right now to handle it. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #83

And then we most likely lose. 24 won't be much different than 20. I don't understand why anyone Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #32

Likely lose?? VP Harris would be an incredible candidate. honest.abe Aug 2021 #35

Well, they ARE going to cheat. Aristus Aug 2021 #40

No, she did not do well in the 2020 primary. And I question her ability to win in Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #64

She didn't do well mainly because she was in the same lane as Biden. honest.abe Aug 2021 #82

Calling a boomer who would have been the oldest Dem first sworn Celerity Aug 2021 #43

Yeah, I should have put "youthful" in quotes. honest.abe Aug 2021 #45

totally agree on the youthful personality part, and she would make a great POTUS as well Celerity Aug 2021 #59

Wait what? VP Harris won't be in her 70's until the 2036 election. madinmaryland Aug 2021 #67

re read, if she won 1st term in 2028, and then was re elected in 2032, she turns 70 in 2034 nt Celerity Aug 2021 #71

I don't know much about Harris, frankly.. what are her approvals? As a woman, I can tell you now secondwind Aug 2021 #3

Her approvals aren't very good right now. Marius25 Aug 2021 #13

Biden never said he was one and done...I don't know where people get this. It would be madness Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #27

Biden never said one and done. LakeArenal Aug 2021 #39

If Biden doesn't run, there will be a primary to decide the nomination Klaralven Aug 2021 #5

No Way Harris Wins RobinA Aug 2021 #6

I agree with you and don't see her winning. I really like Adam Schiff. n/t SheilaAnn Aug 2021 #14

I would have voted for Adam Schiff, but he has not supported Biden sufficiently in this Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #23

I agree completely. If she's our candidate, we lose. This country does not like women much. Nay Aug 2021 #60

"This country does not like women much." Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2021 #61

I am betting Joe runs, then hands it over to Kamala in early 2026. roamer65 Aug 2021 #7

I Hope Not RobinA Aug 2021 #20

It happens in parliamentary systems all the time. roamer65 Aug 2021 #55

If Joe remains healthy, I hope he serves out both terms. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #25

I do, too. roamer65 Aug 2021 #56

If he decides not to run, there will most certainly be a primary Polybius Aug 2021 #8

I think a 2024 Harris/Trump matchup is far from certain, even if Biden doesn't run Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #11

Personally I Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #79

Another thought experiment.. honest.abe Aug 2021 #12

I remember the thought experiment of 2016 sarisataka Aug 2021 #15

so true, I never bought into that nonsense but it was out there steve2470 Aug 2021 #18

What a downer. When we had people like Stacey Abrams winning GA for us. LakeArenal Aug 2021 #41

Stacey Abrams and other PoC have been wonderful steve2470 Aug 2021 #42

Your premise is wrong from the start. LakeArenal Aug 2021 #46

I never said that.... steve2470 Aug 2021 #47

It just doesn't strike me as a "thought experiment" LakeArenal Aug 2021 #51

To be fair Bettie Aug 2021 #21

Yes there were some surprises sarisataka Aug 2021 #26

Yeah, but 2020 was closer also Bettie Aug 2021 #48

This would not surprise me dclarston13 Aug 2021 #19

I Think RobinA Aug 2021 #29

I can't help wondering if Biden & Co. rushed the Afghanistan retreat assuming... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #52

Even liberal men will often find Bettie Aug 2021 #50

No, I really like Sen. Harris but Biden has a better chance of winning as incumbent. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #22

If Biden doesn't run every democrat in creation Tomconroy Aug 2021 #24

True but would Harris have an advantage treestar Aug 2021 #31

Don't know. She'd certainly have name recognition. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #36

I would hope so treestar Aug 2021 #28

Harris did poorly in the primary. Not sure being VP will be enough to change that. jalan48 Aug 2021 #33

And therein, as the Bard would say, lies the rub DFW Aug 2021 #49

you are correct, as usual steve2470 Aug 2021 #53

Thanks, Steve! DFW Aug 2021 #57

Biden did poorly in multiple primaries before he ran this time Bettie Aug 2021 #63

This time is unlike any other IMHO. And I agree he has an advantage...the other candidate who might Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #65

If Biden runs, he'll be our candidate Bettie Aug 2021 #81

We'll know more when the next primary begins. I'm sure there will be multiple contenders unless jalan48 Aug 2021 #80

at this point who knows samsingh Aug 2021 #37

Trump came far closer to winning in 2020 than people like to admit.. What is it? A Tomconroy Aug 2021 #38

Either one is fine with me! MoonRiver Aug 2021 #44

I have never thought either Biden or Trump will run in 2024. former9thward Aug 2021 #58

I believe he will run for the good of the country. He comes from a long lived family. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #66

Total nonsense. tavernier Aug 2021 #69

I'm sorry, do people really think Biden's going to run again? greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #70

see post 69 and others steve2470 Aug 2021 #72

That's wild greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #73

I can't imagine him running pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #86

I truly doubt that the ptb back her for 2024. That said if it's not Biden Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2021 #74

Sad to say, but I find it highly unlikely this nation would elect a woman of color as POTUS misanthrope Aug 2021 #75

A highly qualified white woman tried. dalton99a Aug 2021 #76

Personally, I don't think this should be mentioned at this time. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #77

If this must be discussed... LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #78

I don't think Harris will win if she runs. hamsterjill Aug 2021 #84

I don't assume that she would get the nomination FBaggins Aug 2021 #85