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reformist2

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7. You're too idealistic. A humorous wisecrack often seals the deal.

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Fri Oct 19, 2012, 11:20 PM

Oct 2012

You have to remember it's a big country and people are persuaded in all sorts of ways - by reason, by logic, by ideology, by common sense, by fear & paranoia, and many - a lot, actually - by humor.

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Yeah, fuck me but I don't think Big Bird, binders, or Romnesia will carry the election... [View all] cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 OP

The polls aren't going in the wrong direction. Lex Oct 2012 #1

Okay. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #2

Au contraire, mon ami. Ridicule and mockery are extremely effective The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #3

Exactly right. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #9

I'm up to go to work at 5 a.m. I'm in bed at 9 p.m. I don't see Letterman or Leno. SNL lost its cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #14

OK, that's YOU. That's not millions of other people The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #16

actually, Gore didn't lose. grasswire Oct 2012 #26

I am quite aware of that. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #34

grasswire was responding to the other poster (n/t) spooky3 Oct 2012 #47

It's way past your bed time. n/t Turborama Oct 2012 #63

Actually, it is you who are mistaken. It is in exactly these ways that low-info voters get the cleanhippie Oct 2012 #107

Agreed! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #18

The Globe this week goclark Oct 2012 #58

"Yeah, fuck me..." Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #4

I think the President knows the "how to get votes" game demwing Oct 2012 #5

The economy is really perking up Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #89

+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #113

The lovely thing about America is Free Speech. You can have your opinion. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #6

You're too idealistic. A humorous wisecrack often seals the deal. reformist2 Oct 2012 #7

Yes and yes. Humor has power when it is based on truth. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #56

actually i think a vague "plan" with no details is a better strategy renegade000 Oct 2012 #8

I could not disagree with you more... cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #10

Drip drip drip. This stuff is cumulative. Dukakis in a tank alone didn't cost him the election, Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #11

Yep. I was actually a Repug back then (sorry), and that campaign still makes me laugh. reformist2 Oct 2012 #99

The Cult Bishop is just to weird to be President flamingdem Oct 2012 #12

This is the twitter election. Every new meme happens within a day or hours. Jennicut Oct 2012 #13

"the twitter election" cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #20

All the people I know tweet. And text. Jennicut Oct 2012 #25

And... EVERYTHING you read on twitter is the honest truth. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #31

You know what else is the honest truth? theKed Oct 2012 #96

Boomers might vote in large numbers BarackTheVote Oct 2012 #28

I am in my thirties and use twitter regularly. Jennicut Oct 2012 #30

EXCUSE ME? aquart Oct 2012 #33

Good for you. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #39

I don't, either. Obviously, however, many people do. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #36

I'm 62, a boomer, and I tweet and text... and use a smartphone. Waiting For Everyman Oct 2012 #41

I'm almost 62 and have accounts on Twitter, Facebook, and a number of message boards... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #73

15% of online Americans now use Twitter pintobean Oct 2012 #100

I'm only a few years younger than you, and I know a boatload of people who Tweet. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #102

I'm 50 too and I tweet Liberalynn Oct 2012 #104

You and other rational people will vote for Obama anyway. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #114

Starting a post with "Yeah, fuck me" will not carry the election, blue neen Oct 2012 #15

5 words TINA FEY turned the tide Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #17

So you're betting the future of the country on Tina Fey and Sarah Palin? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #22

Yeah, they lost in 2008, in part, because Palin was relentlessly mocked. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #46

AND it took a woman to break the taboo so Palin was less of a victim. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #119

+1! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #121

NO, I'm saying that EVERY weapon in the aresenal should be used, don't discount humor and sarcasm. Tigress DEM Oct 2012 #118

They need to push a theme to the end creeksneakers2 Oct 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author BKW Oct 2012 #21

funny, I see Obama do that regularly. List his accomplishments. grasswire Oct 2012 #23

Me, too. Bolo Boffin Oct 2012 #45

Did you forget that the MSM picks the parts they want to show apples and oranges Oct 2012 #24

Your concern is noted and filed appropriately. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #27

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #29

In your own words: "Ridicule and mockery aren't going to cut it, folks". blue neen Oct 2012 #35

big bird makes me happy, unlike this thread trailmonkee Oct 2012 #42

An informed electorate making rational decisions upi402 Oct 2012 #38

it's a shame that issues aren't the focus southmost Oct 2012 #32

It eats news cycles Samjm Oct 2012 #37

Yes because "i can see Russia" and "flip flop" were very ineffective TheDonkey Oct 2012 #40

Three things: ProSense Oct 2012 #43

Thank you for the FACTS. Lex Oct 2012 #44

You're welcome. Remember this: ProSense Oct 2012 #51

That's great, except for two things: Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #66

None of the clips are from the convention. n/t ProSense Oct 2012 #76

That is what makes a catchphrase like "Romnesia" works, but you need to use it TheDonkey Oct 2012 #85

Where will this be shown? Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #123

It's not an either/or thing. Different types of messages reach different people. spooky3 Oct 2012 #48

I guess that's probably true. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #69

Exactly. Even on DU users attach themselves to different formats and issues. nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #115

The big job now is to get voters committed to Obama out to vote. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #49

I would agree that... Jim Engle Oct 2012 #50

You're trying too hard Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #55

Sorry, but I don't know what you mean. n/t Jim Engle Oct 2012 #78

You're following a script Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #80

I guess I am trying to say... Jim Engle Oct 2012 #81

That's not the kind of script I'm talking about Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #84

Thank you.. Jim Engle Oct 2012 #86

So you've changed your mind and you're voting for Obama? Kennah Oct 2012 #91

Pretty good choice on a user name as well. Easier to hide. Kennah Oct 2012 #90

I respect your opinion Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #52

It's my party and I'll mock who I want to Kalidurga Oct 2012 #53

Bob Shrum? DefenseLawyer Oct 2012 #54

Please proceed.... Viking12 Oct 2012 #57

@Cherokeeprogressive serbbral Oct 2012 #59

I love the irony Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #60

@Floyd serbbral Oct 2012 #68

I don't disagree on the shelf life Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #72

Voting is under way. At some point the election is about momentum and it helps to feel KurtNYC Oct 2012 #61

You're exactly right. This race is as close as it is, because the President has not Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #62

Maybe, ProSense Oct 2012 #64

Maybe the American people have missed it all. Common Sense Party Oct 2012 #65

Carville, Greenberg Say Obama Economy Message Is Working ProSense Oct 2012 #79

@ Common Sense Party serbbral Oct 2012 #74

Just in case you hadn't noticed.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #77

I would say he's done the first and second fairly well... ellisonz Oct 2012 #82

I would say a joke should not go longer than one news cycle, during one day. If it is a good applegrove Oct 2012 #67

It's all about perception and image, and the right wing knows that, and does the mockery big time begin_within Oct 2012 #70

Let's just say the Obama campaign hasn't exactly been a model of how a campaign starting quinnox Oct 2012 #71

I agree somewhat. PO has done GREAT Sebass1271 Oct 2012 #75

You have a knack for being wrong. jsmirman Oct 2012 #83

I've noticed that as well, fwiw. Electric Monk Oct 2012 #92

OP also has a knack for xenophobic racism Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #93

That brings up a point. Occulus Oct 2012 #106

The OP also whined about alleged intolerance against Christians on DU months ago Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #108

LOL. I knew the term "Romnesia" would piss someone like you off Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #87

romnesia = LIAR ... just more polite..might not work to be more overt.. amborin Oct 2012 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #94

You mean like the first debate? JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #95

This is the portion of his stump speech Skidmore Oct 2012 #97

A good humorous bite theKed Oct 2012 #98

Romensia is a way to say 'Mitt is a liar' with some humor. Sticks like glue. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #101

Bullshit. Policy doesn't win over the apolitical people who only pay attention TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #103

Everything matters. You never know what the catalyst will be to change a vote. Lucinda Oct 2012 #105

I call it the "fence post" theory.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #116

Votes will win this election for President Obama. porphyrian Oct 2012 #109

Consider yourself fucked. Frank Cannon Oct 2012 #110

I hear ya hiphopnation Oct 2012 #111

Excuse me but your OP is utter nonsense rbrnmw Oct 2012 #112

+100 demwing Oct 2012 #120

Romnesia might have legs, it is a way to call the man a liar without saying the word LIAR krawhitham Oct 2012 #117

you're being dishonest about us and about Obama by saying these are our only campaign tactics CreekDog Oct 2012 #122