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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
22. Yes, I read what you wrote previously.
Mon Sep 20, 2021, 08:53 AM
Sep 2021

Last edited Mon Sep 20, 2021, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

It makes no more sense in the repetition than it did when you first wrote it.

The point of a parliamentarian is to tell Senators what the rules mean and what powers they can and can't legally exercise under those rules. Firing them because they don't like how they interpret the rules and replacing them with someone who tells them the rules mean and that the rules allow them to do whatever they want to do is not changing the rules.

If the Senate doesn't like how the parliamentarian interprets the rules, they should change the rules to do exactly what they want or to eliminate the parliamentarian altogether.

Your argument otherwise doesn't make any logical or practical sense, regardless how often you may repeat it.

This consternation about the parliamentarian and instructions about how Senate Dems should deal with her is rather amusing given that the people engaging on it have likely never paid attention to previous rulings (pretty much every piece of legislation and every vote is weighed on by the parliamentarian) but gets their shorts in a bunch once or twice a year when they hear in the media about a ruling they don't like - and then they demand that the Senate Democrats remove her.

But I'll bet not one of the people here making such a demand has paid any attention to her previous rulings (except that one or two previous ones they heard something about, disagreed with, and got mad about), has bothered to read the legislation she's ruling on and has any idea at all what the rules and laws she applied even say.

And yet, they are demanding that the Senate fire her and get someone else to re-interpret the rules, legislation and laws they don't know and haven't read.

Interesting.

They Need To Find One Who'll Rule Right, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #1
She is hired to faithfully interpret the rules. tritsofme Sep 2021 #2
Thanks elleng Sep 2021 #5
not the point. Don't obfuscate. triron Sep 2021 #6
It's the entire point. Demonizing the parliamentarian is the definition of obfuscation tritsofme Sep 2021 #8
That,'s precisely the point StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #15
Putting In A New One Is Changing The Rules, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #9
Your criticism is absurd and ignorant. tritsofme Sep 2021 #10
Your View, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #11
Again, your criticism should be aimed at senators tritsofme Sep 2021 #14
What's the point of having a parliamentarian StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #17
At The Risk Of Repeating Myself, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #20
Yes, I read what you wrote previously. StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #22
We Are At A Point, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2021 #24
Right back atcha, my dear StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #26
No, she laid out facts, any ignorance on your part notwithstanding. tritsofme Sep 2021 #28
Re: that disastrous course FBaggins Sep 2021 #30
I don't believe it is correct that courts can strike down a law based on noncompliance with tritsofme Sep 2021 #33
I wish this post could be pinned to the top of the page Devil Child Sep 2021 #32
Putting in a new parliamentarian to interpret the rules the way you want StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #16
Absolutely correct - but it's also worth nothing that this isn't just "interpreting the rules" FBaggins Sep 2021 #21
Yes and no StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #25
All true FBaggins Sep 2021 #27
These arguments are ridiculous StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #29
You say "ridiculous" - I say "deadly" FBaggins Sep 2021 #31
Thank you StarfishSaver Sep 2021 #13
Thank your for the sane and logical take tritsofme Devil Child Sep 2021 #23
Absolutely agreed. ColinC Sep 2021 #4
Filibuster is now killabuster Walleye Sep 2021 #3
Completely expected. Did the Democrats have 50 votes for that proposal? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #7
That Is A Good Question, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2021 #12
Perhaps the leadership knows they don't have the 50 votes and were looking for the Parliamentarian PoliticAverse Sep 2021 #18
Sens. Durbin and Padilla say they have a plan B following the Senate parliamentarian's ruling LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #19
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