If You Think Progressives Won't Compromise w/ Centrists, You Have It Backwards. Liberals are begging

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53. :) That first's not quite what I meant. All Democrats are slandered as

something different from what they are -- to cause those vulnerable to distrust and despise each other. Divide and conquer. All liberals are progressive, practically by definition, and by far most Democrats are liberal, differing from liberals who call themselves "Progressives" not in ideals, and very little in goals but rather in how big and fast we should to pursue them, best methods to achieve them, and worst case how much we'll settle for less than we want to avoid achieving nothing.

We do have some moderate conservatives in our party. They're real. The house's Blue Dog caucus an example; only 2 or 3 are hard-core Republican supporters. We do often have to compromise a bit with them, but their tail does not wag our our dog.

The conservative Democratic senators are in a different position -- they do have the legislation in a choke hold right now, and we have no choice but to negotiate with them, to give up some to get most. They know it. We know it.

What's so amazing to me is Sinema is going renegade, shocking her voters with her betrayals, blatantly taking money before the votes, etc. You know who do that and get away with it, whose voters reelect them determinedly anyway, of course -- her Republican colleagues. A lesson in choosing candidates for proven integrity.