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Salviati

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7. I don't like the fact that one or two senators...

Reply to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:03 PM

Oct 2021

... can have such an outsized influence over a bill, especially when they're citing concerns that are not shared by their constituents. I'd like the negotiation to end on a number a bit closer to the original number, but I'd take it as a huge win if by putting up with his bullshit on this issue, they got him to commit to doing whatever it takes to get the voting rights bill passed, whether it's a specific carveout in the filibuster for voting rights, or a wholesale shift back to the talking filibuster. He needs to accept that there will be zero republican votes for any voting rights bill that is effective in any way whatsoever, and take appropriate action.

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Manchin said he would not accept more than 1.5 trillion. Will that be acceptable to pass the bills? [View all] JohnSJ Oct 2021 OP

Does anyone know Sinema's "secret" number/requirments/deal killers? n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #1

The Senator has spoken, do we have any choice or say in the matter? Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #2

Yes! Deuxcents Oct 2021 #11

If the bill is to pass then it will have to be jimfields33 Oct 2021 #3

1.5 tr or zero. Crumbs doesn't do shit for anyone. Budi Oct 2021 #4

Of course JohnSJ Oct 2021 #5

He's going to have to compromise qazplm135 Oct 2021 #6

True. With the flooding & fires I doubt there's a State budget that isn't in need of Budi Oct 2021 #10

"There has to be compromise & an end to the grandstanding." bluewater Oct 2021 #14

I don't like the fact that one or two senators... Salviati Oct 2021 #7

Manchin and Sinema should list the "wasteful" programs they want to cut from the 3.5T. Marcuse Oct 2021 #8

Sinema already has said (and thus flip flopping after taking shedloads of pharma and other Celerity Oct 2021 #18

The final bill will be more than $1.5T- it's not the total price that matters Fiendish Thingy Oct 2021 #9

That's why Biden told the Dem Congress meeting to think of the benefits & not the price tag Budi Oct 2021 #12

Its the floor, the amount from which they will negotiate up. Doremus Oct 2021 #13

if... myohmy2 Oct 2021 #15

Pass what we can now - get bigger majorities in 2022 or 2024. everyonematters Oct 2021 #16

Pass what we can now - get bigger majorities in 2022 or 2024. everyonematters Oct 2021 #17

We've pulled out of Afghanistan, so take it out of the "defense" budget Withywindle Oct 2021 #19

Something is better than nothing. Politics is the art of what's possible... NurseJackie Oct 2021 #20

Will Manchin and Sinema vote to pass the Bill even at 1.5 trillion? Roisin Ni Fiachra Oct 2021 #21

Can't someone dig up dirt on him Tribetime Oct 2021 #22

Even at $1.5 trillion, the total expenditures from Biden will be over $4.5 trillion LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2021 #23