Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

Celerity

(51,514 posts)
Sun Oct 3, 2021, 07:07 AM Oct 2021

The Gen Z Girls Repping the 'Tradwife' Life. A Lifestyle Used to Justify Misogyny & White Supremacy [View all]

How TikTok and a Gen Z aesthetic are selling a lifestyle used to justify misogyny and white supremacy in America

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/tradwife-gen-z



Mention the word “tradwife” and you might imagine the 1950s archetype: A “traditional wife” in a dress and an apron, smiling at her husband and three kids while presenting a gleaming beef roast at the dinner table, pleased as ever in her domestic domain. For a swath of right-wing American men, that image is part of a fantasy of how things “used to be,” in the good ol’ days before antifa and Black Lives Matter and feminist YouTubers ruined everything. The tradwife symbolizes stability — at least for those who imagine social change as an attack on their identity and being. It is the “submissive and breedable” meme, made unironic by chauvinism. It is, ultimately, a hatred of women going their own way. Which made it all the more surprising when Mariel Cooksey began noticing the Gen Z women and girls actively repping the tradwife aesthetic and lifestyle online. Cooksey, a researcher at the Institute for Research on Male Supremacy, decided to study why and how this rhetoric spreads, and found that teen girls are being attracted to the movement thanks to an evolution in how tradwife ideas are marketed and presented.



Anti-feminist women rising at various moments to support male-led movements is nothing new (see: the Ku Klux Klan). But the blend of Gen Z online culture and old-world patriarchal beliefs is harder to parse. Cooksey describes it as a pyramid scheme, with influencers able to tap into a much broader group of women, looking for counterculture in an increasingly chaotic world. “This isn’t the same phenomenon as MAGA girls, and ironically, you see some Gen Z tradwife accounts posting critically about them. Because even Trump Republicanism has modern feminism in it — women are running for Congress, you know?” Cooksey explains. “Instead, these young women are filling a niche that’s a counterpart of young male extremism in the far right.” On the surface, identifying as a tradwife doesn’t necessarily mean you align with white nationalism or other extremist political views. But the overlap in rhetoric and the whiteness of the movement is stark, and Cooksey tells me that some tradwife influencers are explicit in their sharing of extremist ideas, with personalities like Ayla Stewart (aka “Wife With A Purpose”) and Caitlin Huber (“Mrs. Midwest”) interacting openly with white nationalist accounts.



​Consider it the next chapter in the story of how the alt-right has given way to niche subcultures that repackage the same toxic ideas on masculinity, gender roles, “family values” and the need for patriarchy. This isn’t just a response to modern feminism — tradwife influencers are at the intersection of white and male supremacy in America, rooted in a theory that order will return to society if women submit to men and support the family while ignoring everything else. That such old-school conservative beliefs are being held up as counterculture by Gen Z women and girls is another sign of fascism creep. I recently sat down with Cooksey for a conversation on what’s different about this version of tradwife idealism, the ways in which young women are attracted to it as a form of online counterculture and why it needs to be studied.



When did you start to investigate how some of these right-wing, deeply misogynistic ideas are gaining traction with young women again?

I graduated with my master’s in December and a large part of my thesis was the relationship between the alt-right and Christianity, and how newer Gen Z offshoots are branching out from alt-right culture over the last five, six years. It’s young people who swear they’re not part of the alt-right, but have undeniable roots in it, like the American Identity Movement or Nick Fuentes and the Groypers. These are groups that are oriented at the “campus level,” under the age of 25, generally. I’ve been keeping an eye on this cohort for a long time. It occurred to me that the female side of this movement isn’t brought into the fold a lot because, for instance, the Groypers are very exclusionary toward women. Ultra misogynistic. Yet they have these expectations for how they want their future wives and families to look. And I wondered how these incel overtones would work in relationships. Of course there’s the fundamentalists — Fundy influencers — but they tend to be older, married and more focused on a conservative Christian view. So where would younger girls fit in? And what kind of content are they putting out?



What’s the history of this subculture, and why is the Gen Z approach so different? .......................

snip
80 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
i had not heard about this before, but I wish there was a more balanced article about it. Renew Deal Oct 2021 #1
It looks like the article heavily borrows from this one... Renew Deal Oct 2021 #17
Maybe let people live how they want to live. Loki Liesmith Oct 2021 #2
What a problematic hot take. Celerity Oct 2021 #4
Ain't problematic for me Loki Liesmith Oct 2021 #23
Nor me. "Pursuit of happiness," and lots of time for pursuit corrections too. Hortensis Oct 2021 #26
The point of the article was about the infiltration of misogyny and white supremacy Celerity Oct 2021 #45
I think the the misogyny is clearly coming from those who are criticizing this fashion cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #57
Letting people live how they want to is the least problematic thing ever. nt cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #56
Except that has zero to do with this. nt Celerity Oct 2021 #60
Exactly right. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #14
"Feminism isn't anti capitalist enough." Loki Liesmith Oct 2021 #3
Ah, false frame red-baiting too. Celerity Oct 2021 #6
We can all agree white nationalism and misogyny is a bad thing. madaboutharry Oct 2021 #5
One common theme I've seen when looking into this is that many of these people want to be accepted Renew Deal Oct 2021 #19
They are some of the most judgemental people. malletgirl02 Oct 2021 #42
Agree Renew Deal Oct 2021 #44
Maybe that generation that experienced Mom being gone a great deal want a different Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #46
Feminism is about making the right choices. Girlboss or bust.... (Sarcasm) NT cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #58
Give them a year of being the one responsible for everyone else's socks, of having no Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #7
I was thinking that too. jimfields33 Oct 2021 #9
It's going to take more than a year. Renew Deal Oct 2021 #20
What makes you say 15 years? Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #28
It takes a while for young people to realize they didn't achieve their dreams Renew Deal Oct 2021 #31
I'll buy that. But I bet the dissatisfaction sets in a lot sooner, and they just stew for Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #37
Took about 2 months for a young bride whose wedding we attended. Hortensis Oct 2021 #25
The lie is that you're being put on a pedestal, when in fact you are expected to behave in a certain milestogo Oct 2021 #52
The limits of freedom are of course very real, but whether one Hortensis Oct 2021 #55
+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #36
Honestly, that is a ridiculous statement. I can assure you being home and raising my kids did not Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #47
Seriously! That and not having a second income? smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #65
Horrifying article. They miss one very big point. It takes a ton sinkingfeeling Oct 2021 #8
Lol. I'm always in awe of her easy purchases of food jimfields33 Oct 2021 #10
'You're Not a Racist and Neither Am I': The Former Feminist Who Turned to White Supremacy Celerity Oct 2021 #12
The last tweet says it all peggysue2 Oct 2021 #38
This is a racist woman...it doesn't matter if she works or stays home. She is a scummy racist...but Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #48
When I watch Pioneer Woman Mr.Bill Oct 2021 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #69
In the 1950s you could support a family on one income. milestogo Oct 2021 #11
The problem is that it proves their point Renew Deal Oct 2021 #21
No. That is not their message. A lot of people, including myself, believe that simplifying Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #32
Life's basics aren not "too much things" though uponit7771 Oct 2021 #61
Probably at least half and more of the nation's families can if desired. Hortensis Oct 2021 #27
If they're white, the UE for educated non-whites is still double than that of whites. This notion .. uponit7771 Oct 2021 #62
Not true for all people in the 1950s. malletgirl02 Oct 2021 #41
You still can if you care more about family than keeping up with your instagram feed. cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #59
The UE rate among ***EDUCATED*** non-whites is still double that of whites. We still live in a 1950 uponit7771 Oct 2021 #63
A lot of "tradwifes" in decades past were desperately unhappy tanyev Oct 2021 #13
Society forgets Renew Deal Oct 2021 #22
I "love" the old plays and movies featuring deeply disturbed women who Hortensis Oct 2021 #30
I clearly remember the era of "mother's little helpers." Lots of moms in my neighborhood had Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #33
Ms. Cooksey's article is worth reading blogslug Oct 2021 #15
Thanks. Haven't read it. But that's my observation for decades, Hortensis Oct 2021 #35
It's a good article blogslug Oct 2021 #40
The Article Title is the Problem erpowers Oct 2021 #51
The GenZ like their parents and grandparents will end up much the same in the end. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #16
The Gen-alphabets all end up the same...old and shrivled unless they die young. nt joetheman Oct 2021 #29
So true...hahah. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #43
Love my wife! ExciteBike66 Oct 2021 #18
I don't understand the Housework thing...whether you work or stay home, you have to clean Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #49
If you work, you can hire someone to clean. smirkymonkey Oct 2021 #66
I have to confess I broke it down and gotten a maid as well cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #67
it is a dream ... or nostalgia bedazzled Oct 2021 #24
This. I come from a family with many women. We are older now. Those who Scrivener7 Oct 2021 #34
it is regrettable bedazzled Oct 2021 #39
Not Really erpowers Oct 2021 #54
Do a Better Job Teaching History erpowers Oct 2021 #53
Young people trying on an identity--it's superficial and probably short-lived. Wingus Dingus Oct 2021 #64
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #68
Hmmm... demmiblue Oct 2021 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #72
Lulz. n/t demmiblue Oct 2021 #74
I see both sides. People forget is was women business people who paid for schools and churches ... marble falls Oct 2021 #73
"The girls down at the office make better coffee on a hot plate." Champp Oct 2021 #79
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #80
Flame away. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #70
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #75
Your first day at DU? hamsterjill Oct 2021 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2021 #77
I didn't answer your questions because hamsterjill Oct 2021 #78
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The Gen Z Girls Repping t...