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In reply to the discussion: AOC Hails President Biden As 'A Good Faith Partner' [View all]betsuni
(28,109 posts)57. A very different time. "The Crime Bill Debate Shows How Short Americans' Memories Are."
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/09/joe-biden-crime-bill-and-americans-short-memory/597547/
2/3 of the Congressional Black Caucus voted for it, had the support of many black leaders.
Rep. James Clyburn describes the reaction of the audience when running for Congress and opposing mandatory minimum prison sentences:
"Those people darn near lynched me in that meeting, and there wasn't a single white person in the room. The atmosphere back then -- the scourge of crack cocaine and what it was doing to these African American communities -- they were all for getting this out of their community."
Charles Rangel opposed the bill, but said he could do so because he was in a safe blue district: "The only thing people wanted from us was to do something." "When you go to town-hall meetings, people just demand that you explain what the hell you're going to do to reduce crime."
Because it was bipartisan, the White House agreed to harsher punishments "to win the Republican votes needed for the passage in the face of conservative Democrats' opposition to the assault weapons ban." Clyburn says they planned to build on the positive things in the bill: "But then we lost in 1994 and all the punitive stuff, the Republicans kept all that and got rid of some of the good stuff."
Of course things changed and politicians' positions change. For example, Bernie Sanders voted for the bill, with reservations, but as many said about the epidemic of organized crime at that time, action was needed. Communities demanded it:
"I think there is no disagreement among all of us that we need strong law enforcement ... clearly there are people in our society that are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them."
AOC said she and Biden would be in different parties in 2020, not 1994.
2/3 of the Congressional Black Caucus voted for it, had the support of many black leaders.
Rep. James Clyburn describes the reaction of the audience when running for Congress and opposing mandatory minimum prison sentences:
"Those people darn near lynched me in that meeting, and there wasn't a single white person in the room. The atmosphere back then -- the scourge of crack cocaine and what it was doing to these African American communities -- they were all for getting this out of their community."
Charles Rangel opposed the bill, but said he could do so because he was in a safe blue district: "The only thing people wanted from us was to do something." "When you go to town-hall meetings, people just demand that you explain what the hell you're going to do to reduce crime."
Because it was bipartisan, the White House agreed to harsher punishments "to win the Republican votes needed for the passage in the face of conservative Democrats' opposition to the assault weapons ban." Clyburn says they planned to build on the positive things in the bill: "But then we lost in 1994 and all the punitive stuff, the Republicans kept all that and got rid of some of the good stuff."
Of course things changed and politicians' positions change. For example, Bernie Sanders voted for the bill, with reservations, but as many said about the epidemic of organized crime at that time, action was needed. Communities demanded it:
"I think there is no disagreement among all of us that we need strong law enforcement ... clearly there are people in our society that are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them."
AOC said she and Biden would be in different parties in 2020, not 1994.
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Someone will pick out a couple of words that she said and twist them to make it sound like
Autumn
Oct 2021
#1
You didn't, and I didn't say you did. I said that term, "shitty Republican tricks"
Autumn
Oct 2021
#41
DId you consciously infer that inaccurately, or was it merely a mistake on your part?
LanternWaste
Oct 2021
#29
Did you not read the first sentence before that "shitty republican tricks" ??
George II
Oct 2021
#48
I switched nothing. Twisting words said by a Democrat is a shitty republican trick.
Autumn
Oct 2021
#19
I will post what, when and how I chose, there are steps to take if you don't like my post or if you
Autumn
Oct 2021
#65
You read a lot into my posts that aren't there nix. I never implied anything about Democrats using
Autumn
Oct 2021
#42
You should sign up for their emails, Autumn. I'd post a few of them here, Autumn, but alas......
George II
Oct 2021
#50
Biden is not only a good faith partner to Democrats, he is a good faith opposition to Republicans.
Midnight Writer
Oct 2021
#5
Same here. Many years as a fire breathing libtard, and I am now more pragmatic (and effective) too.
Tommymac
Oct 2021
#15
Biden is a moderate. But he is wise and compassionate, he sees the needs of the people and the
Autumn
Oct 2021
#24
'AOC said that Biden is a moderate, but "reaches out and actually tries to understand
elleng
Oct 2021
#9
I think Pres Biden and Rep Ocasio-Cortez make a better team than most credit them with.
LanternWaste
Oct 2021
#30
I'm sure you remember then Senator Joe Biden's stance on the DP & his crime bill back then too
SunImp
Oct 2021
#55
A very different time. "The Crime Bill Debate Shows How Short Americans' Memories Are."
betsuni
Oct 2021
#57
Of course that is the case, as most other advanced nations use proportional representation-based
Celerity
Oct 2021
#58