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TlalocW

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19. I got to thinking about Mormonism tonight
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:50 AM
Oct 2012

Especially after watching the video some people have posted about their secret practices, and I kind of got pissed off about it - moreso than usual.

Let me begin with saying that I was raised Christian; I nominally am still one, and I'm more likely to give them a pass - to a point because secondly, I'm an entertainer on the side - mostly balloon animals but also a healthy amount of magic - and I fall in with the Penn and Teller (not necessarily their politics) and James Randi (I think he's more liberal) subsection in that I hate people who use "magical thinking" to scam people - priests who claim statues of the Virgin Mary cry, faith-healers, palm readers, people who talk to the dead, etc. are all shitstains on humanity. Most of them never make it to the big time, but some do.

And it really pisses me off that this asshole, Joseph Smith, was able to make up this story about golden plates and looking in a hat at some stones to write a "holy" book and create a new "religion." It's like Creed on, "The Office," said, "I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower. You have more fun as a follower. But make more money as a leader." And I'm sure Smith had no idea how far it would go, although he was going to milk it for all it was worth obviously. And now, it's an incredibly rich and powerful (and unfortunately becoming more respectful) church filled either with people who believe all these crazy things about Kobold, magic underwear, etc. combined with another belief that if they want all that stuff to keep working for them, they HAVE TO tithe, and either the leaders are as delusional as the laity, or the leaders are all just modern Joseph Smiths and know they've got a good thing going on - money, prestige, and power - and are going to continue the scam. I'm not sure which is worse.

So I agree with you about the line. Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu, Sikh, etc. I have no problem holding office for the most part (I of course would prefer more liberal members of the religion who can separate their religion from their secular duty), but I have to say - with apologies to Harry Reid - wouldn't want a Mormon or Scientologist in charge of a bake sale.

TlalocW

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Joseph Smith was a huckster and a con man - a 19th-century L. Ron Hubbard. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2012 #1
I guess the silly stuff that was made up 2,000 years ago is more familiar Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #2
Not only that, but there's been 2000 years to weed some of the craziness out. Barack_America Oct 2012 #5
I guess, although the belief that a dead virgin-born Nazarene guy from 33 A.D. is going to Arugula Latte Oct 2012 #8
LOL, I did stop to think, and that's why I could never be Christian. Barack_America Oct 2012 #13
Islam is more similar to Christianity than Mormonism. iemitsu Oct 2012 #16
I have respect for all religions in general quinnox Oct 2012 #3
Did you forget about Jim Jones or David Koresh? L0oniX Oct 2012 #4
true, there are always exceptions quinnox Oct 2012 #6
It may be a matter of what someone considers to be a cult. L0oniX Oct 2012 #11
I have no respect for religions, but I have respect for people who believe things... immoderate Oct 2012 #7
Like you, I have a problem with 'recent' religions Syntara Oct 2012 #9
I don't care what they do or believe but I won't be a pawn. nolabear Oct 2012 #10
The newer the religion, the dumber the religion Schema Thing Oct 2012 #12
I completely relate to your points. rudycantfail Oct 2012 #14
I understand what you are saying d_r Oct 2012 #15
True. Mormons do operate in a tradition. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #17
The recent genesis of the Mormon faith is a valid aspect to consider iemitsu Oct 2012 #18
I got to thinking about Mormonism tonight TlalocW Oct 2012 #19
. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #20
. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #23
All new ideas must run the gauntlet of public scrutiny. Some hold up, others don't. reformist2 Oct 2012 #21
Re-Baptising the dead as Mormons is just plain wrong. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #22
Indeed, Sir: the 'Grand-Father Clause' The Magistrate Oct 2012 #24
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