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moniss

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13. There is

Reply to Celerity (Original post)

Fri Oct 29, 2021, 12:49 AM

Oct 2021

also the very real possibility that Manchin and Sinema simply "agree" to this "framework" and then a vote is taken in the House on both bills. The infrastructure bill then goes to Biden for signature and the BBB bill goes over to the Senate to be voted on. Manchin and Sinema can then screw the bill by claiming they've "changed" their mind or that somehow it is now not what they had understood and agreed upon. The Senate Parliamentarian has yet to look at this and give approval either. That's another way for this very diminished "victory" to get even worse. I have zero trust in anything that comes out of the mouth of either Manchin or Sinema. I don't think either one cares about going back on their word because they will have a cozy landing in the GQP along with many millions for the rest of their lives from the big donors.

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This new delay is not on the progressives or Biden at all, it is all on Manchin and Sinema. [View all] Celerity Oct 2021 OP

One certainly wonders FoxNewsSucks Oct 2021 #1

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Oct 2021 #2

I am still waiting for someone to explain how stripping out massive entire parts and programmes Celerity Oct 2021 #5

You keep harping about what's NOT in the bill, but not talking about what's actually IN the bill Wanderlust988 Oct 2021 #20

I was making a specific point, a specific question. I never said the bill as is was not worth a damn Celerity Oct 2021 #22

Classic delay, string out negotiations, Dems give up a lot and then cons don't vote for it anyway. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #3

Sounds like the GQP playbook for the Affordable Care Act. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2021 #19

Especially when they all agreed at the start of the session on policy priorities. onecaliberal Oct 2021 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Oct 2021 #24

No, no, no dpibel Oct 2021 #4

compromising (dollar-wise) 15.2 times (if you use the Biden numbers they support) more than Celerity Oct 2021 #6

I sense that the commenter you are responding to actually agrees with you and was being sarcastic ColinC Oct 2021 #9

yes, I know Celerity Oct 2021 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Oct 2021 #11

just so you know, I am agreeing with you, and know your were being sarcastic Celerity Oct 2021 #12

Strange world, isn't it dpibel Oct 2021 #14

Credit two Dems for crafting the "No Billioniare Left Behind" portion of the law. oasis Oct 2021 #7

How heartless to think that the billionaires should need to reduce their yacht fleet by a life raft. ColinC Oct 2021 #8

There is moniss Oct 2021 #13

The total for the BBB is actually $1.85 trillion, but that includes $100 billion for immigration Celerity Oct 2021 #15

I'm afraid you're right about how this plays out liberalmediaaddict Oct 2021 #21

Both have ruined their political futures. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2021 #16

Their futures are assured RainCaster Oct 2021 #17

The real tell was Sinema nuking the Prescription Drug Price Negotiation piece Celerity Oct 2021 #18

K&R bluewater Oct 2021 #25