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Celerity

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Thu Nov 4, 2021, 08:42 AM Nov 2021

Mika (of all people & after 5 others had a go) finally got Manchin to let the cat out of the bag [View all]

He says that shortening the timeframes on the programmes is a scam, because he wants the total extended timeframe (well beyond 1, or 5, or 3 years for some) cost for them to be factored out (he mentioned ten years before), and THAT total amortised cost (regardless of the fact that the programmes are not even authorised for that long) needs to be covered.

It is impossible to cover them for that long IF, as he also, at the same time, demands that the topline number ends up at only $1.75 trillion (and he snuck in 1.5 to 1.75 trillion, not just a straight 1.75, so he is already setting this up for the next chop).




Before that, he was spewing RW talking points to a level that would make Moscow McTurtle purr (if turtles could purr).

He wants a BBB pause again, but at least did not say until 2022 (although 2022 is almost here anyway).

He says that Medicare expansion will crash an (his words) already almost (in 4 years) insolvent programme.

Says he supports Paid Family and Medical Leave, but that is HAS to be a bipartisan standalone bill.

He was whingeing on that coal is 'getting the hell beat out of it' in America.

He got angry and was doubling down that he will not bend.



Game player, obstructionist, Biden agenda wrecker.
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I believe the House will pass both bills and send them to the Senate ..... Lovie777 Nov 2021 #1
I agree OLDMDDEM Nov 2021 #2
Well, Pelosi sure called his bluff by putting Paid Family & Medical Leave back in the House version Celerity Nov 2021 #4
Agree. I loved her for that. Mike 03 Nov 2021 #5
I keep saying he's never going to support the bill berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #3
I'm worried about this too. Mike 03 Nov 2021 #6
Manchin will NEVER support BBB no matter what's in it. He's a saboteur. n/t CousinIT Nov 2021 #7
+1 n/t area51 Nov 2021 #18
if you are correct (and you very well may be) we are well fucked in 2022 and 2024 Celerity Nov 2021 #24
I believe we are f*cked. Dem / progressive voters won't vote for nothing CousinIT Nov 2021 #27
I'm pretty sure you are right Bettie Nov 2021 #9
" he was spewing RW talking points to a level that would make Moscow McTurtle purr" FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #8
Sinema looks like she is in a straightjacket, fresh escaped from the jenkins, eeeeek Celerity Nov 2021 #11
She always dresses like she's about to clean out the garage. Poiuyt Nov 2021 #13
She looks like she just stepped out of the shower. Haggard Celine Nov 2021 #14
Ok, that was funny. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #17
I'm confident Manchin will not blink and will blow this whole thing up if pushed inwiththenew Nov 2021 #10
I think Schumer would have a better chance convincing one of the moderate Republicans than Manchin Poiuyt Nov 2021 #12
Maybe Murkowski. She did vote with Dems on cloture for voting rights. berni_mccoy Nov 2021 #15
Sinema is far closer to a yes than Manchin, she even agreed to a prescription drug price component Celerity Nov 2021 #25
Manchin has said in the past that he thought reducing the time programs would be in force... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #16
Maybe he needs an Ambassadorship to Japan? Baitball Blogger Nov 2021 #19
he would piss off the Japanese more than even Rahm Emanuel would, lolol Celerity Nov 2021 #26
No words for this dude. Had to mute. Joinfortmill Nov 2021 #20
Democracy killer sounds more appropriate. 2naSalit Nov 2021 #21
I just now realized he reps W virginia. Nough said. lindysalsagal Nov 2021 #22
K&R bluewater Nov 2021 #23
Now he's parroting right wing talking points about Social Security? pecosbob Nov 2021 #28
and Medicare. Economically he far too often defaults to RW framings and memes Celerity Nov 2021 #29
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