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Amishman

(5,894 posts)
18. its a loaded term, allow me to explain a bit better
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 09:02 PM
Nov 2021

I believe obsession with race, racial issues, and identity is a social problem; one nearly as disruptive as racial discrimination itself.

I do not prioritize or generally consider race in my decision making, nor do I really think much at all in terms of who I am.

I do not deny that racism exists or that it is increasing; but I believe there are also those who rush or desire to view every issue through a racial lens, which is often incorrect and leads to wrong conclusions.

I also do accept the idea of white privilege, but I think the primary form of it is economic due to the entrenching of the existing class structure and loss of socioeconomic mobility. White privilege is largely not because of the color of their skin, but an opportunity advantage due to predominantly growing up in two parent households in good neighborhoods and good schools. They benefit primarily because their parents and grandparents were 'on top' so to speak when upward mobility withered over the past 50 years.

By saying I'm not woke, I am conveying that I am not onboard with the current popular interpretations of racial issues in these circles, as the previous statement should make clear. I believe our greatest challenge today is not racism, it is economic inequality.

This will be an unpopular opinion here, and I know I will get some people calling me out on it. I will not be responding, and those who will be offended by my comments will be demonstrating the exact attitudes and biases that I mentioned at the start of this explanation.

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I empathize. That my thing. Sometimes I empathize for a second with the creepiest applegrove Nov 2021 #1
Yes it's really a complex question.. mvd Nov 2021 #2
I'm a Democrat. n/t TygrBright Nov 2021 #3
Exactly.... LakeArenal Nov 2021 #4
Good answer mvd Nov 2021 #5
Yes. I can't afford to be picky. LeftInTX Nov 2021 #8
Same here. Beyond that, I don't play the label game. n/t DFW Nov 2021 #9
This. Why would we subdivide ourselves? Scrivener7 Nov 2021 #10
That's *it*! - if I need to subdivide, an FDR/LBJ/HST UTUSN Nov 2021 #46
I think I'm an FDR-JFK type democrat. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #6
That's how I think of myself too. In line with these two Presidents. n/t Greybnk48 Nov 2021 #29
I don't fit very well into categories, as where I am really depends on the issue Amishman Nov 2021 #7
Why do you say you aren't "woke"? Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #17
its a loaded term, allow me to explain a bit better Amishman Nov 2021 #18
Ok, thanks for the explanation. Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #25
sigh, this makes me so sad (I am too tired to even get mad over it, it is just wearying) Celerity Nov 2021 #30
I thought it also meant that you are ok with banning long time things now found offensive by some Polybius Nov 2021 #24
I think those examples Elessar Zappa Nov 2021 #26
You sound very pragmatic on labor/immigration. Boomerproud Nov 2021 #22
Mainstream liberals are all progressive left, though. How do I click both? Hortensis Nov 2021 #11
Same as you... Karma13612 Nov 2021 #12
The Left-Right spectrum is a fool's game, Ron Green Nov 2021 #13
History of the...Left - Right spectrum. Where did it come from? French Revolution.. Stuart G Nov 2021 #21
I'd like to see a definition of terms Poiuyt Nov 2021 #14
Under my thinking.. mvd Nov 2021 #20
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I wasn't really contradicting most of that mvd Nov 2021 #35
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Because Democratic Socialism is not socialism mvd Nov 2021 #40
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It's not false mvd Nov 2021 #44
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Monarchist. tavernier Nov 2021 #23
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What's in a name? 🙃 moondust Nov 2021 #28
Whereas... DFW Nov 2021 #31
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