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Showing Original Post only (View all)Manchin doubles down on filibuster ahead of Biden's speech (attacking rule changes w/o 2/3rds vote) [View all]
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/589169-manchin-doubles-down-on-filibuster-ahead-of-bidens-speechSen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) doubled down Tuesday on his support for the filibuster as President Biden heads to Georgia to publicly push for changes to the Senate rule in order to pass voting rights legislation. We need some good rules changes to make the place work better. But getting rid of the filibuster doesnt make it work better, Manchin told reporters.
Given support from Manchin and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) for the legislative filibuster, which requires 60 votes for most bills to advance in the Senate, Democrats acknowledge that getting rid of it altogether isnt on the table. Instead, they are discussing smaller changes including moving to a talking filibuster, where opponents could delay the bill for as long as they could hold the floor but legislation would ultimately be able to pass with a simple majority. They are also mulling a carveout that would exempt voting rights legislation from needing 60 votes.
Democrats are also discussing smaller changes, including shifting from needing 60 votes to break a filibuster to needing 41 votes to sustain it or getting rid of the 60-vote hurdle currently required for starting debate while keeping it in place for ending debate. But Republicans arent expected to support any of those rules changes, meaning Democrats would need to use the nuclear option that lets them change the rules via a simple majority.
Manchin hasnt endorsed a rules change option and, in a potentially bigger hurdle for Democrats, he has long opposed changing the rules through the nuclear option. He added on Tuesday that the rules should be changed by two-thirds of the Senate, referring to the 67 votes needed to change rules outside of the nuclear option. We need some good rules changes. We can do that together. But you change the rules with two-thirds of the people that are present so... Democrats, Republicans changing the rules to make the place work better. Getting rid of the filibuster doesnt make it work better, he said.
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I am really close to calling all the voter bills dead, ffs.
BBB is on life support. 2022 and thus 2024 loom ominously.
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Manchin doubles down on filibuster ahead of Biden's speech (attacking rule changes w/o 2/3rds vote) [View all]
Celerity
Jan 2022
OP
IF we somehow pulled off the sneak-in, Manchin would switch parties the next day. Book it.
Celerity
Jan 2022
#6
He would be given a massive sweetheart deal by McTurtle McMoscow, but I will add a caveat:
Celerity
Jan 2022
#12
Yes, but we are talking a hypothetical (that will neve happen anyway) where we pulled a fast one
Celerity
Jan 2022
#15
I blame Cal and the voters of Maine for this, and the US Constitution for each bum fuck state
dem4decades
Jan 2022
#4