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ShazzieB

(16,564 posts)
50. I agree.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 07:25 PM
Feb 2022

I was raised a Southern Baptist, which is basically old school evangelical Christianity, and I can assure you that praying for world leaders to be guided in their decisions or (as in this case) praying for someone's "heart and mind" to be changed so that they see the error of their ways is absolutely nothing new. Whether this has any effect is a whole separate conversation. All I am saying is that there is nothing new, shocking, or treasonous about this.

Prayer is a HUGE thing in these people's lives, and they pray about everything and "for" everyone. All. The. Damned. Time. It's like that Geico commercial says: It's what they do. Prayer is a very BFD to them. Whatever is on their minds, they pray about it, and the looming thread of war in Ukraine is certainly something that is weighing on a lot of people's minds right now.

I realize the whole concept of asking God to make things better sounds silly and childish to a lot of people, but that's a whole separate issue and, imo, neither nor there. The point is that it should not be shocking to anyone when an evangelical preacher tells his followers to prayer for someone like Putin.

Personally, I can't stand Franklin Graham. I think he's flat, dead wrong about a lot of things, and he represents a brand of Christianity that I consider to be toxic in many ways. Anyone who wants to tear a strip off of him when it comes to his anti-LGBTQ+ views, his toxic misogyny, etc., is more than welcome to do so, afaic. But the idea that his asking people to pray for Putin neans he's some sort of pro-Putin traitor is just plain silly. I don't think he wants Ukraine to be invaded any more than we do. He's just telling his people to do what they would do in response to any problem, large or small: pray about it and pray for the people involved. This is s.o.p. for those folks, and people need to quit reading things into this that aren't there and blowing it all out of proportion.

I used to pray for Trump when he was president wryter2000 Feb 2022 #1
I used to pray for him, too, but my prayer was a bit different--involves serious health issues! Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #13
I occasionally prayed for God to change his heart..... lastlib Feb 2022 #31
.....that you know of. Tick tock Donnie. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2022 #38
Graham had heart surgery in November SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #51
so he actually has a heart Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #57
I use to pray Trump would get COVID Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #32
I prayed for him when he had Covid. Didn't do any good though. ☠️ Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #35
"Always side with the bully" - Pontius Pilate lame54 Feb 2022 #2
He's a vulture Lars39 Feb 2022 #3
What a twisted degenerate.. CentralMass Feb 2022 #4
For his death?? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2022 #5
: onecaliberal Feb 2022 #6
F Fucking Graham's a Fascist Idiot. Cha Feb 2022 #7
Franklin could pray for his followers to pay for Franklin to be hit by lightning, PufPuf23 Feb 2022 #8
Jesus is gonna have extra fun with this idiot. roamer65 Feb 2022 #9
Goddamn scum dalton99a Feb 2022 #10
I will pray for President Biden to stop this agression MacKasey Feb 2022 #11
Jesus wept. TomSlick Feb 2022 #12
They would Traildogbob Feb 2022 #14
Then they'd get the nail guns out and get to work durablend Feb 2022 #26
You are correct Traildogbob Feb 2022 #48
AMEN! 634-5789 Feb 2022 #28
This is the tweet Old Crank Feb 2022 #15
Thanks for the link - I suspected it was something more along these lines. groundloop Feb 2022 #23
I tried to alert for abuse Ex Lurker Feb 2022 #53
Need that Old Crank Feb 2022 #56
So, if Putin doesn't "change his heart"... llmart Feb 2022 #33
God Answers ALL prayers, and sometimes the answer is... AllTooEasy Feb 2022 #45
I should have looked behind the thread title before reacting. TomSlick Feb 2022 #49
So go back and edit it. hippywife Feb 2022 #55
Sound advice. TomSlick Feb 2022 #61
I'm sorry, I thought you were the OP hippywife Feb 2022 #62
Nevertheless, you were right about my post - I've edited. TomSlick Feb 2022 #64
Wasn't Franklin the one caught with his pants down? SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #16
I think that was Falwell, Jr. DFW Feb 2022 #21
Thanks for the correction SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #67
And they all sound alike to everyody n/t DFW Feb 2022 #69
Putin lovers need visits from the FBI. roamer65 Feb 2022 #17
As someone who was born in 1951 and grew up... 3catwoman3 Feb 2022 #18
Last summer I was in north central VA and I left.. Botany Feb 2022 #19
There actually are Liberal Christian Evangelicals... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #59
Move to Russia then, Graham! sakabatou Feb 2022 #20
At least, the Republicans and their followers are finally being forced to show their true allegiance DFW Feb 2022 #22
If Franklin Graham wants christians to pray for Putin KS Toronado Feb 2022 #24
I think Franklin has already gauged to feelings of the evagelicals rurallib Feb 2022 #42
Fucking tratior! Initech Feb 2022 #25
Ok, that's IT! I don't like him anymore! dchill Feb 2022 #27
Only good thing about Junior Graham.... paleotn Feb 2022 #29
Total misrepresentation. Graham did not say this. KentuckyWoman Feb 2022 #30
Too bad there's not an alert category for false information groundloop Feb 2022 #37
Jesus did say to pray for your enemies. I just hadn't seen FG paying much attention to JC catrose Feb 2022 #39
noted! SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #68
I doubt it's kompromat. Most likely just shared values. Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #34
Wait ......... What ? musclecar6 Feb 2022 #36
Twitter posting is NOT the news. Please, this is what got us into our mess in the first place. keopeli Feb 2022 #40
Don't like graham but there is more to the tweet we shouldn't spread musinformation thinkingagain Feb 2022 #41
I agree. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #50
I'll give Putin the same prayer I gave Trump. COL Mustard Feb 2022 #43
Pray to Trump? keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #44
Even the Righteous Gemstones would be appalled Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #46
Hey! Let's send him tots and pears too! Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2022 #47
I miss Republican classic. sky_masterson Feb 2022 #52
I'll pray for Putin... to fucking croak... Blue Owl Feb 2022 #54
I imagine the intent is to pray that Putin comes to his senses Raine Feb 2022 #58
Wow! Just wow! This shows how much organized religion has fallen. Sad for patricia92243 Feb 2022 #60
You've been told that these tweets are not accurate more than 12 hours ago. hippywife Feb 2022 #63
kick him out of our country rockfordfile Feb 2022 #65
Scumbag traitor can kiss my ass ornotna Feb 2022 #66
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