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Spider Jerusalem

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16. Like I said (the US, UK, France, Russia and China are the five declared nuclear powers)

Reply to OneBlueDotS-Carolina (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:24 PM

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In as civil a manner as I can manage, let me ask a "naive" question: why is [View all] Atticus Mar 2022 OP

They are a permanent member. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #1

Things are permanent until they're not. nt Atticus Mar 2022 #2

Russia would simply veto any attempt to take them off the Security Council. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #11

That's the key: China H2O Man Mar 2022 #21

Perhaps. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #13

It is unlikely because it takes a unanimous vote to kick Russia out. Irony: At the time allegorical oracle Mar 2022 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2022 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Mar 2022 #18

I imagine it is possible. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #24

Was it not the USSR that was the permanent member ? nt delisen Mar 2022 #19

Yes, but that seat was apparently voted on to be passed to Russia. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #23

As I understand it, the Soviet Union was a permanent member. 11 Bravo Mar 2022 #34

I suppose that will be addressed. Caliman73 Mar 2022 #35

They're one of the five declared nuclear powers Spider Jerusalem Mar 2022 #3

No so... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Mar 2022 #12

Like I said (the US, UK, France, Russia and China are the five declared nuclear powers) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2022 #16

The only nuclear power when the UN was founded... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Mar 2022 #28

Utter nonsense. It does not buy a perm't seat. There are declared nuc powers that do not have seats. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #17

No, there aren't ("declared nuclear powers" refers to signatories of the Nonproliferation Treaty) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2022 #20

Your contention is still utter nonsense. If one signed, they would not get a seat. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #22

Exactly. question I asked earlier.. I don't know how this work, but this seems anathema to the point msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #4

"what the UN is supposed to be about" Pantagruel Mar 2022 #8

That is the history and why it's reputation is so easily damaged.. perfect example as in the past. msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #14

Indeed, Ukraine is challenging this also relayerbob Mar 2022 #5

USSR had a seat that Russia took over SheltieLover Mar 2022 #6

They voted China (PROC) into The Repubic of China's, seat in 1971. OneBlueDotS-Carolina Mar 2022 #29

A few days ago the Ukraine Rep at the UN JustAnotherGen Mar 2022 #7

Short answer: Russia has 20,000 nuclear weapons. bluewater Mar 2022 #9

Not even close. Russia has 6,257 nuclear warheads of which 1,456 are currently deployed. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #26

You are correct the US and Russia both have about 1,600 nuclear warheads deployed bluewater Mar 2022 #27

The UN is useful as a place to blow off steam Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #10

Like installing a famous bank robber as sheriff. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #15

👍 Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #25

The UN is a useless bureaucracy and has been for many many years. Bev54 Mar 2022 #31

It is an interesting Question. The Soviet Union had a seat there. Not Russia. nt Gore1FL Mar 2022 #33