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PatrickforB

(14,576 posts)
32. A thoughtful and spiritual post, indeed. Yes, Cthulhu.
Sat Mar 12, 2022, 01:12 AM
Mar 2022

The forces of chaos.

In the West we feel, have felt for centuries, that if we cannot measure it, see it, touch it, then it cannot exist. A philosopher/counseler friend of many years tells me that Aristotle won the debate over Plato.

Many say there is no Divine force. Yet I believe that this life-force is all things, transcends all things and is within all things. It is the great awareness in which all things exist.

It is conscious but passive.

Yet it does move, and we are its parts.

Your post makes me mindful of a conversation between Frodo and Gandalf in Bag End before Frodo had to set out on his perilous hero-journey. Gandalf was telling Frodo about how the Ring came to Bilbo after it decided to leave Gollum because its master, Sauron, was reaching out for it.

Why, Frodo quips, did the Ring go to Bilbo when an orc would have suited it better? Gandalf answers, "‘Behind that there was something else at work, beyond any design of the Ring-maker."

As in Tolkien's imaginary world, in our real one, there may well be forces beyond our ken, not explainable by our current science or world view. So many little mistakes in time. Coincidences. What ifs. What if Montezuma had not mistaken Hernan Cortez for Quetzalqoatl, the Feathered Serpent? What if the Spanish Armada had not been decimated by a great storm and had conquered England? What if Stalin hadn't had his stroke in 1953, and had precipitated a nuclear war with the West? What if Khrushchev hadn't blinked over the missiles in Cuba? What if Trump's coup January 6 had worked?

The list is endless.

We might be ok, after all. But we are not excused from doing all we can to oppose evil. And ultimately, our species is not excused from growing up.

Madison Cawthorn Is Not An Outlier [View all] Nevilledog Mar 2022 OP
K&R, GZP and Putrid have this one thing in common; both of them are trying to stop democracy uponit7771 Mar 2022 #1
Sure, outLIAR Traildogbob Mar 2022 #18
+1, that guy is being enabled and emboldened. If he is saying that out in the open uponit7771 Mar 2022 #27
And they all hate "good guys" which Zelensky seems to be. nt Samrob Mar 2022 #24
THIS !!! We need to call GZP out far and wide for this bullshit uponit7771 Mar 2022 #26
Madison Cawthorn, human participation trophy. Paladin Mar 2022 #2
He's an outright liar, and useful a tool for Vladdy and Red Don, that's for sure Blue Owl Mar 2022 #3
I was going to say he is a liar, and with luck will be out next election whopis01 Mar 2022 #11
Didn't know anything about him, other than being a jerk. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #29
I suspect the "Putin wing of the GOP" doesn't really support Putin like Trump does, sop Mar 2022 #4
Schmucker Carlson sure loves the autocrats. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #30
Most of the people on the right are incredibly stupid. They simply parrot views held by others. LonePirate Mar 2022 #5
Ah, but this is the real point, isn't it. We must ask the proverbial cui bono - PatrickforB Mar 2022 #7
++ llashram Mar 2022 #13
Righteous Rants allowed. G.H.W.B's "thousand points of light" indeed. czarjak Mar 2022 #14
Most importantly: Divide and Conquer Martin Eden Mar 2022 #15
Solidarity. Hopefully Unions in their best form will make a US comeback soon. Tommymac Mar 2022 #20
You're right about the oligarchs slightlv Mar 2022 #25
Agreed. As a person with three daughters and two granddaughters, PatrickforB Mar 2022 #28
Mass murder for fun and profit! ymetca Mar 2022 #31
A thoughtful and spiritual post, indeed. Yes, Cthulhu. PatrickforB Mar 2022 #32
Right ymetca Mar 2022 #34
Good summation of what they are all about /n es466 Mar 2022 #12
Like the luthier I mentioned in an OP a coupla days ago, panader0 Mar 2022 #6
This is when we really miss John McCain. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #8
The few there still are, are either out or on their way peppertree Mar 2022 #10
on the flip side... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #9
People have a Contitutional Right to freedom of religion, and freedom from religion; 2Gingersnaps Mar 2022 #16
Sounds like they are members of "the Family" a documentary I think on Netflix. Jetheels Mar 2022 #21
Please do not miss the point that Nevilledog is making. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #17
I live in southeastern Wisconsin. Dr. T Mar 2022 #19
No he is not. But we need to make him an 'outofoffice' in Nov 2022 Tommymac Mar 2022 #22
When I saw the post title, I was thinking something else. BaronChocula Mar 2022 #23
He's a very angry , bitter man. Boomerproud Mar 2022 #33
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