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thesquanderer

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36. Nice sloganeering, but not quite the reality, as I understand it.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 11:36 AM
Mar 2022

Last edited Thu Mar 31, 2022, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

The wealthy got 5 trillion richer largely based on the value of their stock. That's not "real money" that could otherwise be made available to solve poverty, it is (to pick up from another recent conversation here), "unrealized gains." It only exists on paper.

For example, Jeff Bezos owns a ton of Amazon stock, which has gone through the roof, and raised his net worth astronomically. But the only way he'd "have" that money would be to sell all the stock... and unloading that much stock at once would basically drop the value of that stock to pennies on the dollar.

So you can't raise the money to do the things Omar is talking about by, say, taxing Bezos's wealth-over-100-million at 95%, in order to get 185 billion or whatever in revenue to combat poverty, because there is no way to for Bezos to turn that much of his wealth into cash.

K&R ck4829 Mar 2022 #1
indeed. you can afford $10 million dollar super boats and high tec bang bangs but not us . AllaN01Bear Mar 2022 #2
We can easily end poverty. The politicians chose not to. Autumn Mar 2022 #3
Yes. She does. Like it is. Like the Rich Media won't say or want her to say. My superhero. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #9
And as an elected official, what will she do about it? brooklynite Mar 2022 #4
She will voice her opinion, get others to agree and cast her single vote? Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #7
She needs the "rich media" to convince other House and Senate members? brooklynite Mar 2022 #10
Yes, many. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #15
Does she really think the it is the 'rich' media's job? Personally I think it is the job of Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #42
Most people will not support cold eggs and luke-warm coffee at breakfast. jaxexpat Apr 2022 #78
Yes. All true. What do anyone know of the real news but what is fed to us by media? Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2022 #82
Tweet tweet tweet. nt comradebillyboy Mar 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Jetheels Mar 2022 #26
She's one of many elected officials. She's doing what she can do to call attention to poverty, Autumn Mar 2022 #11
so many tend to conveniently forget that communicating with & influencing the vox populi often leads Celerity Mar 2022 #47
I appreciate that fact that she and a few others are showing people what is possible but isn't being Autumn Mar 2022 #48
How much time do you have? ck4829 Mar 2022 #14
Many elected officials, including her, list policy positions on their websites. Torchlight Mar 2022 #16
Not interested in their policy positions; interested in their accomplishments. brooklynite Mar 2022 #17
I found that what seems to be and what is are often miles apart. Torchlight Mar 2022 #19
Here you go, easy to locate her record Arazi Mar 2022 #29
Yes, but is she an effective lawmaker like Nita Lowey or Carolyn Maloney? lapucelle Mar 2022 #39
You're seriously comparing 20+ year MOC with a freshman? Arazi Mar 2022 #56
Let's compare Representative Omar to the other Democratic freshman in her class. lapucelle Mar 2022 #60
compare ranking dems to ranking republicans I bet it is skewed I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #66
What does that even mean? N/T lapucelle Mar 2022 #67
Thanks. Tbh, I'm not fussed about her ranking atm Arazi Apr 2022 #85
It's remarkable how well some Democratic freshman rank when compared to "20+ year MOCs". lapucelle Mar 2022 #62
If only she could do something mcar Mar 2022 #53
She and a few others have tried but they keep getting slapped back from...well, you know who you are Samrob Apr 2022 #73
Examples? Like what? What does that mean? betsuni Apr 2022 #74
They've tried what? mcar Apr 2022 #81
$814 Billion a year year after year on military,America can afford to buy the moon, prefers weapons. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2022 #5
Yep ck4829 Mar 2022 #20
Eisenhower probably said it best in his cross of iron speech. LT Barclay Mar 2022 #25
Sad and true, and sadder by the day as the world seems to have learned nothing from history. Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2022 #83
Exfuckin'zactly. Magoo48 Mar 2022 #6
Exactly. niyad Mar 2022 #12
We're not broke! Johnny2X2X Mar 2022 #13
Ding! Ding! Ding! We hava winner!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2022 #18
We need a population control program. Let's begin with no more billionare$ and richer. NCjack Mar 2022 #21
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2022 #22
Wow, great post LT Barclay Mar 2022 #27
+1 Alexander Of Assyria Apr 2022 #84
K&R DLevine Mar 2022 #23
What Should We Do About People Who Simply Don't Want To Work DanieRains Mar 2022 #24
Give them a guaranteed basic income and a place to live gratuitous Mar 2022 #28
True, out of millions of people, not every person is going to fit into the 9 to 5 J-O-B thing that Jetheels Mar 2022 #32
That sounds lovely and it will never happen. This country is too far to the right to enact Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #43
Well then, that's it gratuitous Mar 2022 #49
No that is not it...we need to work towards getting the country moved left...and in the Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #58
No, no, no, you convinced me gratuitous Mar 2022 #59
I will never happen in the short term...which is what I said...not with the numbers we have now. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #61
Bearing in mind that those lovely left-wing social democracies in Europe won't either... brooklynite Mar 2022 #64
Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 2022 #46
Rampant mental illness makes it hard to hold down jobs NickB79 Mar 2022 #35
Thank you. Excellent points. nt DLevine Mar 2022 #44
You can't just walk into a McD's and get a job. sheshe2 Apr 2022 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Apr 2022 #72
Billionaires and oligarchs are today's royalty and nobility. wnylib Mar 2022 #30
Indeed, we should call them our very own oligarchs ck4829 Mar 2022 #31
She has a habit of poking the big cage. twodogsbarking Mar 2022 #33
Why are things that have already been accomplished elsewhere somehow impossible in the U.S.A.? hunter Mar 2022 #34
Honestly, we should call it reverse-subsidies ck4829 Mar 2022 #37
Nice sloganeering, but not quite the reality, as I understand it. thesquanderer Mar 2022 #36
Try reading. This OP is not about AOC. The "monthly child tax credit payments had in effect, Autumn Mar 2022 #40
The child credits were nothing more than a credit folks get at the end of the year given out Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #45
Income thresholds were not raised, they were lowered questionseverything Mar 2022 #65
Sorry, I mis-wrote AOC instead of Omar. Point remains. thesquanderer Mar 2022 #54
That's a highly contrived way of looking at the problem. hunter Mar 2022 #41
But founders of a company always own a lot of the stock. Which means... thesquanderer Mar 2022 #51
Money itself is "theoretical." hunter Mar 2022 #55
K&R. This post and the comments made me think of a quote I heard several days ago c-rational Mar 2022 #38
But, but, my Freedom. Communist demorat.. &#@%! Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #50
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2022 #52
Not to sound like a broken record here, but in our particular capitalist utopia, PatrickforB Mar 2022 #57
"The Squad" ymetca Mar 2022 #63
If the squad does nothing but make the owners uncomfortable from time to time questionseverything Mar 2022 #68
Great Comment!!! McKim Mar 2022 #69
Abso-fucking-lutely. Martin68 Mar 2022 #70
Well... Mike Nelson Apr 2022 #75
We also have to stop pretending that it's politically possible to do so Kaleva Apr 2022 #76
Democrats don't have large majorities in Congress, that's why. betsuni Apr 2022 #77
Normalize calling them oligarchs IronLionZion Apr 2022 #79
Repukes refuse to feed and house these people. The Jungle 1 Apr 2022 #80
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